# SS Braided Lines: ENGINE OIL vs. BRAKE FLUID \*pics\*

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [December 25, 2005, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385 "2005-12-25T09:59:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/1 "2005-12-25T09:59:22Z")

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Earl has these two -4AN lines.

My question is, is there any difference in using the ‘brake line’ as a turbo  
oil-feed line? It’s cheaper, and also includes -4AN hose ends already on.

Whereas, the latter, will require the purchase of two additional hose ends  
that are $5.88USD ea.

**EAR-64191936ERL - $19.99USD**  
_Earl’s Performance Speed-Flex Brake Lines_  
Hose, Speed-Flex, -4 AN Straight Female Ends, 36" Long, Teflon® Lined, Assembled  
These factory assembled brake lines are made from the same Speed-Flex stainless steel braid protected hose of extruded Teflon that is the world wide standard of the racing industry for flexible brake, clutch and instrument hoses. They’re assembled with Earl’s Speed-Flex crimp and/or swaged permanently installed hose ends. Using these brake lines will result in a firmer brake pedal, improved brake pedal feel, and better brake modulation. These lines are designed for off-road use only.  
 ![http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/ear-64191916erl_w.jpg](http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/ear-64191916erl_w.jpg)

**EAR-303004ERL - $14.88USD**  
_Earl’s Performance Auto-Flex Hose_  
Hose, Auto-Flex, Braided Stainless Steel, -4 AN, 3 ft. Length, Each  
These high-temperature elastomeric auto-flex hoses are ideal for almost all street and marine applications, and many non-critical competition uses. These high-quality hoses have a nice looking stainless braided outer cover that protects the synthetic rubber inner liner, allowing continuous operating temperatures of -40 degrees to 300 degrees F. These auto-flex hoses are good for fuel, oil, water, and many other fluids  
 ![http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/ear-303010_w.jpg](http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/ear-303010_w.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/2 "2005-12-25T12:32:20Z")

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you will be fine using the brake line as an oil line to yur turbo, but in the end u still have to buy 2 more fittings to make them work on your turbo you best bet is to go to regional hose, i think they have them out in toronto, and get a one peice cutom made for your car , just take them your old oil line and tell them u need one made with the same ends and the same lenth, i think that earls line is gonna give u more of a hassle than its worth

i just got one made at regional hose for my dads TDI ( cheaper than oem replacement) for about 70 bucks, that was with all the fittings i needed, crimped on , and 1 90 degree fitting

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/3 "2005-12-25T13:56:39Z")

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Actually, I have my parts all figured out 🙂  
And if I use this brake line, then it comes out to about $35 including all the  
Earl fittings I need below 🙂

12x1.25mm MALE/-6AN MALE (SR block)  
to  
-6AN FEMALE/-4AN MALE  
to  
-4AN FEMALE hose end  
to  
-4AN hose  
to  
-4AN FEMALE hose end  
to  
-4AN MALE/1/8NPT" MALE  
to  
Turbo feed

aside from the first metric fitting, I’m hoping maybe CISCO has the lines  
and fittings. If I’m not mistaken, JIC fittings are equivalent to AN fittings.

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**Author:** ![Hector](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/43a26b/32.png) [@Hector](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hector)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/4 "2005-12-25T14:50:37Z")

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im not too familiar with CISCO but if they have fitting they should have it, little secret, parts source should have all the correct fittings as well, thats where i got the ones for my turbo and block

if those places dont i know wainbee does they are located in mississauga, they are a parker fittings authorized dealer, i used to have a summer job there back 5-6 years ago

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/5 "2005-12-25T14:53:15Z")

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Well the price quote I got are from the Keystone catalogue which I  
believe Canadian Tire and Parts Source use.

I’m going to hit up Parts Source to verify…

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**Author:** ![BAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bas/32/5540_2.png) [@BAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BAS)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/6 "2005-12-25T18:35:50Z")

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whip testing and DOT approval are the difference… also the hoses your looking at are completely different… you need to price out the proper brake hose ‘Autoflex’ is a slingle layer reinforcement and two ‘rubber’ layers. Brake hose is very high temp and pressure, TEFLON hose.

This information is ALL on Earls, Russel, Aeroquip, XLR, Goodridge’s respective sites…

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**Author:** ![Gonad](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gonad/32/5481_2.png) [@Gonad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gonad)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/7 "2005-12-26T11:39:42Z")

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I’m not looking for a brake hose.

I need something for my oil feed…

Summit describes the rubber but only in brief…

Guess I’ll have to see what Earl’s site has to say about the material.

Isn’t teflon good for oil lines?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/8 "2005-12-26T12:03:05Z")

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?? … high temp and pressure resistance … yeah it’s good. but it has very low coil ability compared to the ‘rubber’ lines.

Read the specs!

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/9 "2005-12-26T14:35:53Z")

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> [@BAS](#):
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> ?? … high temp and pressure resistance … yeah it’s good. but it has very low coil ability compared to the ‘rubber’ lines.
> 
> Read the specs!

I did but I can honestly say I don’t know what that means, other then that  
it’s not as flexible? :dunno:

What about resistance to corrosive ness of the chemical of oil vs. brake fluid?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/10 "2005-12-26T21:34:46Z")

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… ok simple logic set to work with here to let you choose what’s going to work

if you have a tight bend \<1" radius then use the ‘rubber’

if you are running higher temps then 300F then run teflon.

both will require adaptors for block and turbo.

IF you are concerned about price then go to a haydraulics supply shop have a single layer braided hose with JIC adaptors… of course this still requires a metric to JIC block adaptor and a 1/8NPT to JIC turbo adaptor with throttle apature \>.016"

or you can go on to ebay and pick up one of those cheap-o T2x/T3 hose kits…

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ss-braided-lines-engine-oil-vs-brake-fluid-pics/91385/11 "2005-12-26T22:21:10Z")

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1. No tight bends (it’s a smooth sweep from turbo to block)

2. How hot does my oil get? It averages 150-170F (I have an oil cooler  
that I’m sure helps it lower a few degrees :dunno: )

3. I have all the necessary fittings/adapters worked out (see one of my  
previous posts).

4. And my dad already made me a 1/8" to 0.059" restrictor :wiggle:

Will find out tomorrow…
