# Ssssssssssssss?

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [October 13, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ssssssssssssss/255030 "2010-10-13T08:41:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johawk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/johawk/32/6284_2.png) [@Johawk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Johawk)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ssssssssssssss/255030/69 "2010-10-14T08:20:16Z")

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> [@the Jena 6](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-jena-6/35680/68):
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> Sorry to hear KJugz and the other dude popped. What did they have like 35 deg’s timing in that thing?!!? ROFL [http://shift518.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=679736](http://shift518.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=679736)

I don’t think 35\* is not too much for a NA 10:1 CR cam and header LSX. our heads have great chambers for a 2 valve head but not as good as a pentroof 4 valve like Honda, Mitsu, Ecotec, Toyota, ect…

Point taken tho. The numbers are great but I would take his tune and pull a degree or two and add some fuel. Im guessing the AFR is at fault considering that both vehicles were tuned in warm weather and blew in colder weather.

> [@Lancaster Raceway Park - back in 08 ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/lancaster-raceway-park-back-in-08/35857/5):
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> I run 32\* of advance and 12.7:1 AFR across the boards WOT, I could advance it more if I wanted but it doesn’t help power much at that point.
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> I know in the case of Drew’s car the timing table looked more like a set of broken stairs in an abandoned building and so did the VE table. Overall the advance is very very low for his setup. I don’t think it’s unsafe, just not optimal.

Some smoothing and blending is in order! I have only been using my EFI Live for a month but I know this ^ can’t be good

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