# STANCE | DRIFT

**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive
**Created:** [January 4, 2010, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531 "2010-01-04T08:52:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 37

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### Author: ![REDWGN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redwgn/32/6695_2.png) [@REDWGN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/REDWGN)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/721 "2011-12-20T14:52:34Z")

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WOW

![https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386374_10150566381350809_125281815808_10795550_2099223520_n.jpg](https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/386374_10150566381350809_125281815808_10795550_2099223520_n.jpg)

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### Author: ![nick350z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nick350z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nick350z)
#### Post date: [December 20, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/722 "2011-12-20T14:57:42Z")

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god damn thats alot of angle!

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### Author: ![car\_ramrod](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/car_ramrod/32/6441_2.png) [@car\_ramrod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/car_ramrod)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/723 "2011-12-21T05:26:05Z")

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![http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/12167/12459993.jpg](http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/12167/12459993.jpg)

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/724 "2011-12-21T06:01:09Z")

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see that’s what I don’t get, everywhere I read people theorize that at lock you want as little or no positive camber on the inside wheel, yet every competition level car I see with lots of angle has a ton of positive camber.

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/725 "2011-12-21T06:29:27Z")

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I can’t see the picture Sam posted. I don’t understand why you would want a ton of positive camber

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/726 "2011-12-21T07:17:06Z")

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![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/_MG_9577_yes-1.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/_MG_9577_yes-1.jpg)

![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/IMG_2032-2.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/IMG_2032-2.jpg)

![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/3-17.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/3-17.jpg)

![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/my-rotiform-dream.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/my-rotiform-dream.jpg)

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### Author: ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/727 "2011-12-21T07:20:11Z")

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Drift  
 ![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/IMG_6491-2.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/IMG_6491-2.jpg)

![http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/_MG_1259.jpg](http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab121/bBoxy319/_MG_1259.jpg)

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/728 "2011-12-21T07:49:16Z")

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> [@So which decade were you born in?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-which-decade-were-you-born-in/47359/44):
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> I can’t see the picture Sam posted. I don’t understand why you would want a ton of positive camber

positive camber on the inside wheel at lock, not centered. It’s probably just a trade off of running more caster, but still, you’d think that’d make the car front end tough to steer well at/near lock.

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/729 "2011-12-21T08:24:32Z")

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Ohhh on the inside wheel… At crazy angles, depending on the ackermann, you might want positive camber for less traction so it doesn’t drag.

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### Author: ![nick350z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nick350z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nick350z)
#### Post date: [December 21, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/730 "2011-12-21T15:06:04Z")

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are you guys refering to inside wheel as the leading wheel?

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 6:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/731 "2011-12-22T06:25:44Z")

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yeah

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### Author: ![nick350z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8797f3/32.png) [@nick350z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nick350z)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/732 "2011-12-22T09:54:03Z")

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yea the leading wheel at lock with alot of angle always has alot of positive camber. I guess that theory to have as little as possible would be just to have the front end bite. But like steve said it might also add drag, if it did that it would kind of work against having that angle.

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/733 "2011-12-22T10:01:52Z")

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Well since all the weight should be on the leading tire I’d think you’d want it as flat as possible, the trailing wheel shouldn’t matter, and I’d think you’d want it to drag as little as possible by either having a ton of negative camber, or zero ackerman, or both. but then the car would turn in like a bag of dicks.

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### Author: ![RTrac1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rtrac1/32/6312_2.png) [@RTrac1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RTrac1)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/734 "2011-12-22T10:45:16Z")

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i think its a compromise given for having the caster where you want it

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### Author: ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 10:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/735 "2011-12-22T10:49:52Z")

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You do but I don’t think it would be that easy to get the tire that flat without sacrificing the neg camber you need for most drifts that arent at full lock.

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### Author: ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/736 "2011-12-22T10:59:42Z")

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Right. I’m just going to hack up my knuckles and hope for the best :rofl

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### Author: ![vorsprung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f07891/32.png) [@vorsprung](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vorsprung)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/737 "2011-12-22T15:53:03Z")

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 ![http://www.worlddriftseries.com/fd2011/lb/small/--2.jpg](http://www.worlddriftseries.com/fd2011/lb/small/--2.jpg)  
 ![http://www.worlddriftseries.com/fd2011/lb/small/--29.jpg](http://www.worlddriftseries.com/fd2011/lb/small/--29.jpg)

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### Author: ![20wrx09](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/20wrx09/32/6532_2.png) [@20wrx09](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/20wrx09)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/738 "2011-12-23T07:42:51Z")

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### Author: ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/739 "2011-12-26T13:13:23Z")

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Saw this an instantly got wood. This is fucking awesome!

 ![http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e215.jpg](http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e215.jpg)

 ![http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e213.jpg](http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e213.jpg)

 ![http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e211.jpg](http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e211.jpg)

 ![http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e216.jpg](http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/swaiknow/e216.jpg)

GOD DAMN I MISS MY E21!!!

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### Author: ![bwe45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bwe45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bwe45)
#### Post date: [December 26, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stance-drift/249531/740 "2011-12-26T14:17:07Z")

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so THATS why you told me you wanted another e21. i see the connection now

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