# Steelers vs. Dolphins

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**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [September 22, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299 "2004-09-22T13:07:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![silvrhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@silvrhand](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silvrhand)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/1 "2004-09-22T13:07:33Z")

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Made a new topic so serious debate can go on here.

Summary:

If we can run the ball, plexico starts catching instead of dropping stuff, and we can get a decent QB experience we’ll be in the playoffs and go 10-6 if not better.

I think it’ll be a tough slugout against the dolphins, Maddox being out 6 weeks might be good against this team cause we might be a bit better off as our new QB seems to move around _IN_ the pocket a bit better.

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/2 "2004-09-22T13:42:46Z")

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i agree,if they all back ben,this team should be better!

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/3 "2004-09-22T13:46:32Z")

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rookie qb’s first game and on the road, dolphins win because of a mistake on a read play. ben seems to have all the tools except experience. Its a little different than when marino and elway came in and dominated based on their abilities. The game is much more complex and there is a bigger gap from college to NFL now. maybe by the end of the 6 weeks ben will have adapted but its gonna take more than that. If the steelers can run dominantly this game they will win.

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/4 "2004-09-22T14:18:50Z")

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if the running game is established early and ben gets out the jitters in the 1st quarter without give up an interception we will dominate the game.

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**Author:** ![SSsuperchargedE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sssuperchargede/32/5958_2.png) [@SSsuperchargedE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSsuperchargedE)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 3:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/5 "2004-09-22T15:48:23Z")

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> [@SSsuperchargedE](#):
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> 17-7 Pittsburgh
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> I don’t doubt Ben for a second. He shown at least me that he has more than enough potential to lead us to at least a .500 season, which could be enough for a wildcard berth.

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**Author:** ![rookee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rookee/32/5972_2.png) [@rookee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rookee)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/6 "2004-09-22T16:15:46Z")

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all ben’s bad tosses seemed to be either he short armed them or just threw to the wrong spot. those seem like things that you can work out of his game with some practice. i just hope that the secondary stays ok and that we don’t get anymore big injuries this season.

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/7 "2004-09-22T17:27:20Z")

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> [@rookee](#):
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> or just threw to the wrong spot.

thats the exact scenario i mean, thats a rookie mistake that he will make, weather it will cost them the game or not remains to be seen.

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**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/8 "2004-09-23T08:40:08Z")

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i dont see the steelers quite dominating this came, but they can win. Miami basically has their defense to rely on. aslong as we can run the ball decent, then it should be ok. I think a week of Ben practicing w/ the 1st team and actually preparing for a game, he’ll already be improved over last week (which was a decent performance). hes gonna make mistakes though, like cutty said. should be a good,close game…the steelers just need to be fired up and come to play

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**Author:** ![ProbeGT1012](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@ProbeGT1012](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProbeGT1012)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/9 "2004-09-25T14:49:26Z")

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i saw on espn that the game was postponed then 10 mins later they rescheduled it for 8 30 sunday night… cause of that new hurricane comin into florida

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**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/10 "2004-09-26T21:01:30Z")

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game just ended.

i think their running game looked good but i was really impressed with the defense! they were flying to the ball and hitting people hard! i felt pretty bad for feely he was gettin killed all night. as for ben, he did good IMO. looked strong in the pocket and made some good passes but you could see his inexperience and that he wasnt used to throwing to his recievers. i think when tommy comes back hes going to have a very hard time keeping his job. first time he fucks up ben is going to be put right on the field!

overall i say they did good.

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**Author:** ![Jordons\_Pontiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@Jordons\_Pontiac](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jordons_Pontiac)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/11 "2004-09-26T21:13:16Z")

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Oh well thats the team and coatching for you oh well.

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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/12 "2004-09-26T22:00:10Z")

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ben showed great signs of improvement and a win like this on the road is big for him. he still doesn’t know the playbook perfectly yet, lucky for him he has great receivers to help him out. some of his passes were right on the money and he looks great on the run. Mark my words now, Tommy lost his job for good!

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**Author:** ![Bravada\_442](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bravada_442/32/5982_2.png) [@Bravada\_442](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bravada_442)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/13 "2004-09-26T22:06:31Z")

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I dont think Maddox has lost his job, yet. Cowher is the kinda guy that really sticks by his old war horses, the guys that have been thru the fire with him (ex: Bettis still getting carries when it should be 95% Staley and 5% Verron Haynes), as well as sticking with Washington and B. Alexander last season… As long as Maddox isn’t losing games for the Steelers, I think Cowher will leave him in. But I think we have Cincy written all over us (Maddox comes back, we go 9-7, and then Cowher appoints Roethlisberger starter in the off-season, just like Lewis did with Kitna and C. Palmer). I’m excited to see Ben the next 4 to 6 weeks though, for sure.

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**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/14 "2004-09-26T22:11:06Z")

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> [@Bravada 442](#):
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> I’m excited to see Ben the next 4 to 6 weeks though, for sure.

x2

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**Author:** ![TwoForty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@TwoForty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TwoForty)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/15 "2004-09-26T22:17:10Z")

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opinions on veron haynes? i think hes full of potential and will prove to be a huge asset to the steelers up until he matures into a feature back and leave teh steelers.

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**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/16 "2004-09-27T04:09:18Z")

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Fuck Maddox. He’s done. Back to the insurance office for him!

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/17 "2004-09-27T04:14:14Z")

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> [@rookee](#):
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> all ben’s bad tosses seemed to be either he short armed them or just threw to the wrong spot. those seem like things that you can work out of his game with some practice. i just hope that the secondary stays ok and that we don’t get anymore big injuries this season.

go and look at his last interception against teh raiders…and look at the routes the recivers ran…shit high school wr run better routes than that…the reciver were sloppy on that play!!!

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**Author:** ![silvrhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@silvrhand](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silvrhand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/18 "2004-09-27T06:29:44Z")

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Overall: Good

Ben: He made two/three _REALLY_ bad throws, he seems to throw and make better decisions on the rollout, which is good maybe we can get some naked bootlegs, and play off our running game better. He should of had 2/3 interceptions though in the game, but the dolphins were uh unsucessful in getting them…

Defense: Unknown I mean we played against the dolphins which have had 9 new starters in 2 weeks, 4 of which were not with the team 2 weeks ago… Ouch, ouch, and uh more ouch… Have to wait a bit longer in the season…

Plexico: WTF have you done for me lately… catch the fucking ball.

Heinz Ward: Can I have your manbabies?

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**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/19 "2004-09-27T06:34:20Z")

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> [@silvrhand](#):
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> Overall: Good
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> Ben: He made two/three _REALLY_ bad throws, he seems to throw and make better decisions on the rollout, which is good maybe we can get some naked bootlegs, and play off our running game better. He should of had 2/3 interceptions though in the game, but the dolphins were uh unsucessful in getting them…
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> Defense: Unknown I mean we played against the dolphins which have had 9 new starters in 2 weeks, 4 of which were not with the team 2 weeks ago… Ouch, ouch, and uh more ouch… Have to wait a bit longer in the season…
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> Plexico: WTF have you done for me lately… catch the fucking ball.
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> Heinz Ward: Can I have your manbabies?

Plexico hade a few good blocks done the feild!

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**Author:** ![silvrhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@silvrhand](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silvrhand)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2004, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steelers-vs-dolphins/169299/20 "2004-09-27T06:58:16Z")

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Few blocks down the field?

How about the:

- lazy route running (giving up after half his route)
- dropped passes (3rd game where he dropped a pass that hit him in the hands)
- celebrations on a catch (wtf do your job, celebrate after a good play, not a catch)

He needs to stop hanging around Joey Porter and look more towards Heinz as a role model.

> [@8.1crew](#):
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> Plexico hade a few good blocks done the feild!

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