# Steve Jobs was "deceptive" says FBI **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 9, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387 "2012-02-09T21:02:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/21 "2012-02-10T09:40:51Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > Hell, he brainwashed hundreds of millions of dumbasses into thinking that a stupid logo was worth double the price any of his products should have actually cost. He even convinced them to buy every single related accessory, song, movie, etc. to use on his products from him at inflated prices too. No shit he was able to manipulate people. There isn’t any comparable products to my macbook air for half the price :lol: Same thing with my macbook pro ---
**Author:** ![SaNTi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@SaNTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SaNTi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/22 "2012-02-10T10:40:00Z")
I’ve been reading his biography by Walter Isaacson and although he was undoubtedly a genius and an amazing business man, this motherfucker was an **ass hoeeeee**. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/23 "2012-02-10T10:44:05Z")
What did your Macbook Pro cost for what specs? The new Dell XPS 15z I just picked up for $900 with a 3 year @home warranty looks just like a Macbook Pro and runs circles around any under $1500. (QC i7, 8GB, 750GB HD, 2GB Nvidia card, 1080p screen) I have no use for Mac OS so I haven’t looked into it but I’m pretty sure people are hackintoshing them with no issues as well. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/24 "2012-02-10T11:05:24Z")
macbook pros start out at $1199 and goes all the way up to $2500 The dual core i7 with 4GB RAM is $1499. Quad core is $1799+ ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/25 "2012-02-10T11:11:52Z")
Wow, so you’re probably looking at 2 grand for my setup. Over double. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/26 "2012-02-10T11:12:52Z")
The one I just ordered for work was 1600 4gb/13inch air/256 SSD OSX is key for me since its BSD based with a pretty front end and a ton of apps I also use the CLI for python/ruby/c on a daily basis…I don’t like running FreeBSD/Linux/Whatever for my primary OS. My macbook pro was intel core 2 duo I think i for a Apple refurb for 1000?ish You won’t find something that compares to the air for size/performance/screen Dells build quality is also shit I know you don’t really care but you also need to compare bench marks between video cards and shit My experience is based on using every laptop under the sun in my IT career and dealing with people who have used every kind also. I could just be getting lucky with my Mac products who knows? Every Android product I have got for work has sucked multiple phone issues I have never had with my iPhone…I have blown up/broke Dells/IBMs/Acers etc ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/27 "2012-02-10T11:20:57Z")
I’m not too familiar with the air because I hate small laptops. Even my 14.1 Lenovo for work pisses me off. 1600 still seems really steep though even with a big SSD. The Pro’s are way overpriced though, no way around that. I’ll take worse build quality if I know that they will be at my house the next day to fix it if it breaks, for the next 3 years. (Plus 1 extra year for buying with an AMEX) If you need to use Mac OS, I understand, but the OS license and logo on the top are costing you $500. This is my video card [http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gt-540m-us.html](http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gt-540m-us.html) not sure what they throw in the MBP’s but I imagine it’s not much better. I like the option that you can tell each program whether to run with dedicated or integrated graphics when on battery. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/28 "2012-02-10T11:26:49Z")
Oh I also forgot to add the battery life on my Macbook destroys every other laptop I have/had When I was at TWC I had a i7 dell loaded it was over $2000 and it sucked 😉 I blame part of that on corp software but even the battery was meh In the end I don’t care what anyone else does I know what works well for me. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/29 "2012-02-10T11:30:05Z")
Word. I just want to punch babies every time I see some chick waste an extra grand on a Mac to play FarmVille and write papers because it looks cool or “it just works.” ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/30 "2012-02-10T11:30:22Z")
Dell’s build quality is crap, couldn’t agree more. I wouldn’t be able to deal with the touchpads and keyboards. I have a Lenovo T400. It’s a VERY solidly built laptop, but it’s also $1500. We never really had the option for a Mac, but as of the past year or so they’ve changed their tune. My next work machine will definitely be a Macbook Pro. For now, I will continue on with Fedora on my Lenovo. I had to replace the battery on it recently. They got me a 9-cell battery. Things lasts forever. LZ, have you gotten your hands on a Galaxy Nexus? They’re super solid, and with the a bug fix update around the corner it will be even better. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/31 "2012-02-10T11:32:54Z")
The T400 is my work laptop I was bitching about and that I’ve had in 4-5 times this year for random issues LOL…it really is luck of the draw with any manufacturer ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/32 "2012-02-10T11:35:24Z")
luck of the draw? eehhh. A lot of people around the office are pretty big fans of the Lenovos that we have been running. Sounds like you got a random lemon. Lenovo’s business lines are rock solid. Again, they’re pricey though. They’re not a sub $1k machine. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/33 "2012-02-10T11:40:20Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > LZ, have you gotten your hands on a Galaxy Nexus? They’re super solid, and with the a bug fix update around the corner it will be even better. I opted not to get a work cell phone…I was sick of having two cell phones I have a VoIP desk phone at home and all is great. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/34 "2012-02-10T11:45:38Z")
> [@bing](#): > > if you’ve never tried drugs you’re a fag. integrity comes from knowing what it’s like and chosing not to, not always having been afraid that you couldnt handle it. I’m sure half the dudes in the senate and congress are coke heads anyways. This statement is fucking laughable. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/35 "2012-02-10T11:52:18Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I opted not to get a work cell phone…I was sick of having two cell phones I have a VoIP desk phone at home and all is great. word, I wasn’t sure if you had some toys around the office for testing or something. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/36 "2012-02-10T13:40:05Z")
> [@bing](#): > > if you’ve never tried drugs you’re a fag. This may be one of the dumbest statements ever made. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/37 "2012-02-10T13:47:20Z")
> [@bing](#): > > also, who cares about recreational drug use as a youth… why do they even ask that anymore? > > if you’ve never tried drugs you’re a fag. integrity comes from knowing what it’s like and chosing not to, not always having been afraid that you couldnt handle it. I’m sure half the dudes in the senate and congress are coke heads anyways. Call me a sausage loving homo then. Drug free for life! In reality I was just too big a loser to do drugs and didn’t have many/any friends growing up b/c I was too busy working and making money to sit around smoking weed watching the walls. I associate “recreational” drug user with a great deal of fggtry actually. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/38 "2012-02-10T14:03:44Z")
lol… i guess you have to know me to find it funny. ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/39 "2012-02-10T14:04:18Z")
All of your arguments are invalid. Drugs, or the lack thereof, isn’t what makes fggts. Being a fggt comes from deeper within and drugs couldn’t possibly help/hurt you in either situation. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387/40 "2012-02-10T14:42:49Z")
iono, there are nicer addictions, addictionally speaking… still, i’d like to be found dead from a coke overdose someday. Also, i earn 1.75 becks so i can afford lots of coke… if i wanted to… just sayin. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/steve-jobs-was-deceptive-says-fbi/220387.md?page=3)