# STi takes first loss.... :( **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [April 22, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579 "2008-04-22T20:54:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/61 "2008-04-23T10:47:57Z")
> [@Boostin No More](#): > > he said he ran a 12.7 with Longtube headers and full exhaust…thats it on street tires. > > shawn I dont know where your getting your info from but I have seen more then a handfull of stock LS1 M6’s break into the 12’s at lebannon…the A4’s are more in the 13.0-13.3 range… > > maybe your talking about the LS1 z28’s/firehawks??? From everything I have read, most LS1 are in the MID/LOW 13s on average NOT 12s as you indicated. What exactly is the difference between LS1 Z28s/Firehawk vs what you are talking about? The 12.7 for headers/exhaust sounds right but not the trap. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/62 "2008-04-23T11:25:06Z")
> [@Boostin No More](#): > > he said he ran a 12.7 with Longtube headers and full exhaust…thats it on street tires. > > shawn I dont know where your getting your info from but I have seen more then a handfull of stock LS1 M6’s break into the 12’s at lebannon…the A4’s are more in the 13.0-13.3 range… > > maybe your talking about the LS1 z28’s/firehawks??? > > The SS/WS6 have more power then your regular z28’s/firehawks…and mine has more power then your regular SS because its the SLP performance upgraded one. > > still tho, my car feels to me like its much faster then it should be with its current mods…is it possible my heads are ported?? I know its not cammed from what I hear with it idling…could be possible tho depending on what cam?? I have ridden in many ls1’s and it seem’s to pull harder then your average bolt on one for some reason??? > > like travis walked Pauls bolt on Z28 real quick…it was vise versa with me… > > IF the heads are ported, is their any possible way I could figure it out without actually pulling a head off? > > theirs just something that seem’s a little bit fishy to me about my car…it runs too good for its current Factory mods. he walked my car because i was in the bottom of second gear, id dig race with him and i bet i’ll keep up, your car isnt a freak or anything, thats just how the ls1’s are, its one thing to be quick, like your v6t but the ls1 is fast, and your “slp” ss really isnt much off a z28 or trans am. prolly like 10rwhp difference. Richies ws6 is fast, but mind you he takes VERY good care of it, it only has 32k on the clock. He has a very good running ls1 and a 12.7 is right around where he should be. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/63 "2008-04-23T11:29:10Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > From everything I have read, most LS1 are in the MID/LOW 13s on average NOT 12s as you indicated. What exactly is the difference between LS1 Z28s/Firehawk vs what you are talking about? > > The 12.7 for headers/exhaust sounds right but not the trap. that trap does sound a little high, i would think a 110 or 112 with the ws6. The slp edition is a free flowing exhaust and an intake, not much to it. What people dont know is that the 01-02 z28s, trans ams, ss, and ws6 have are the ls6 intake,compared to the 98-00 the las6 intake manifold is def worth 10rwhp over the stock ls1 intake. ANdrews SS should dyno 320-330rwhp so 12s are def obtaniable. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/64 "2008-04-23T11:29:36Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > thats just how the ls1’s are, its one thing to be quick, like your v6t but the ls1 is fast, HUh? His LT1T was much “faster”/“quicker” than his LS1. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/65 "2008-04-23T11:31:35Z")
lt1? he had a v6turbo before, which was quick, but its def a different feeling than the ls1, i guess is what im trying to say. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/66 "2008-04-23T11:37:04Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > lt1? he had a v6turbo before, which was quick, but its def a different feeling than the ls1, i guess is what im trying to say. when i got the car yesterday, i was kinda dissapointed cause it didnt feel nearly as fast as my V6 did…but my girlfriend told me other wise… well after the run last night its obvious that the car is faster then my v6 I also have 43k on the clock…and its obvious whoever owned it, took care of it. I havent found a flaw in it yet besides some dog hair on the back seat haha a member off ls1tech just posted this… “my stock 02 ss m6 trapped 110 mph bone stock at 1100 ft above sea level, humid as hell to, with a 1.809 60ft on street tires if its any constellation my car has all the slp options and cme lol” basically same exact thing as mine. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/67 "2008-04-23T11:55:54Z")
so in the 1/4 what does travis’ car run? **as it sits!** not what it would run ---
**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/68 "2008-04-23T11:58:15Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > so in the 1/4 what does travis’ car run? **as it sits!** not what it would run i think 109 give or take for the trap ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/69 "2008-04-23T12:00:36Z")
if so that race makes perfect sense, especially since the camaro probably pulls harder top end then the sti. You cant compare my car against travis and your car against travis because my car is totally different, get some stickys on that thing and we’ll dig race and see if that car is a freak or not, i doubt it i jus think your not used to the power. ---
**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/70 "2008-04-23T12:12:04Z")
a freak of a car was Austins Boosted GSR That thing beat cars it shouldnt have… ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/71 "2008-04-23T12:23:25Z")
Everyone wait ONE MINUTE… This isn’t the STI’s first loss, it lost to an RX-8 with exhaust. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/72 "2008-04-23T12:49:34Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > lt1? he had a v6turbo before, which was quick, but its def a different feeling than the ls1, i guess is what im trying to say. I keep confusing the two. Regardless of your feeling, the two cars do not compare. The V6T was quicker and faster. That’s what I am trying to say. 🙂 > [@K20power](#): > > Everyone wait ONE MINUTE… This isn’t the STI’s first loss, it lost to an RX-8 with exhaust. 0wn3d ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/73 "2008-04-23T13:01:28Z")
> [@K20power](#): > > I guess, that’s what he said, it’s stock with longtube headers and exhaust, 6spd and told me and Boostin that he ran a 12.5@ 116… i’m not saying he was lying, but it just seems odd, i wouldn’t think a WS6 with exhaust would be running that good of a trap speed and ET it does, its got gears, tune, and an exhaust, and spec stage 4 x… on the ET streets. his new engine isnt near completion yet, but thats a big block, big power engine. ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/74 "2008-04-23T13:08:19Z")
i honestly dont think that the v6t is faster than this car, close but the SS is faster ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/75 "2008-04-23T13:12:11Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > i honestly dont think that the v6t is faster than this car, close but the SS is faster the SS is nicer, and a better starting platform IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/76 "2008-04-23T13:47:28Z")
> [@plaf713](#): > > i honestly dont think that the v6t is faster than this car, close but the SS is faster If it isn’t, that’s pathetic. I recall the talk of his car jumping into the 11s and trapping near 120? Something doesn’t make sense here. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/77 "2008-04-23T13:51:54Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > If it isn’t, that’s pathetic. I recall the talk of his car jumping into the 11s and trapping near 120? Something doesn’t make sense here. I recall that also and i believe it was plaf and travis claiming that. I wouldn’t doubt the v6T would’ve broke 11’s, with some sticky tires and a fixed tranny it would’ve broke 11’s, but then again the v6T was about even if not a little faster than Travis’ STI and apparently the SS walked the STI soo… ---
**Author:** ![Auto0utcast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/auto0utcast/32/6281_2.png) [@Auto0utcast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Auto0utcast)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/78 "2008-04-23T14:08:25Z")
without a doubt the v6-t was a slower car… the SS is a torquey bitch. my car also FEELS to be running better lately… but thats negligible. boostin pulled me by about 3/4 of a car last night… there will be a rematch. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/79 "2008-04-23T14:10:39Z")
You guys need to lay off the nose candy. If the SS is faster, that V6T was seriously FUCKED and you guys are FUCKED for thinking it would go 11s. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579/80 "2008-04-23T15:32:23Z")
> [@Shawn96VR-4](#): > > You guys need to lay off the nose candy. > > If the SS is faster, that V6T was seriously FUCKED and you guys are FUCKED for thinking it would go 11s. theirs no way in hell that it was a 11 second car how it was sitting the day before the turbo went…at most, it would have hit high high 12’s on a real good run… but if I had a fixed tranny,torque converter, methanol and a dyno tune and drag radials theirs no doubt in my mind that the car would have atleast went low 12’s all day long consistantly… how my turbo V6 was before the turbo over spun compared to my SS…I feel they are close up top, but the SS hauls some serious ass down low…overall, the SS is a faster car… my SES light came on today in it. Dodge world must have shut it off because its a catylic converter bank 1 sensor (forgot the code) so I figured maybe my cat was going bad…stuck my head under the car and couldnt find any cats to save my life??? Paul, these things hafto have caty’s…where are they??? bottom of the exhaust manifolds??? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sti-takes-first-loss/236579.md?page=5)