# Stock Brakes = Garbage **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [August 16, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646 "2007-08-16T22:28:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![crsbb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b9bd4f/32.png) [@crsbb](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crsbb)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/21 "2007-08-17T10:23:44Z")
a\_ahmed. Your car still auto? Wow you are fucking cool with racing seats, big brakes and an auto tranny. weak man… fucking weak. you must drive like a retard to so plz go crash your auto 240 that you paid like 5k and when you die I can get your crazyyyyy!!!1111 brakes. ---
**Author:** ![Keez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/keez/32/5570_2.png) [@Keez](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Keez)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/22 "2007-08-17T10:47:43Z")
my dd stops fine, i havnt even looked at hte brakes since i bought the car. lol and to tell you the truth when i just went out and looekd at them, my rear calipers are seized i belive. anyways. predictable driving is where its at. on the hwy and streets its not hard and i never had a problem with fade i have also been to track events. ---
**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/23 "2007-08-17T11:20:27Z")
For 3 years I ran 180sx calipers with brembo blanks and Hawk HPS pads on the track. I have a stock KA. There were very few instances where I was able to fad my brakes. On Shannonville full track I’d stay out on track for sometimes over 1 hour without pitting. They only thing I found was I had to bleed brakes after every track outing because my brake fluid would simply break down and the pedal would feel mushy. I fixed this problem buy using Motul RBF-600 brake fluid. Last season when I started doing serious lapping and this year before I started racing in solo 1 I found with slicks my HPS pads didn’t have enough bite at higher temperatures because of higher speeds and lower breaking distances actually needed. I fixed this problem by upgrading to Hawk HP+ pads. I can lock my slicks up easily, I have never faded my brakes once. Lets reiterate: V-710 slicks 1 hour on track 180sx calipers brembo blank rotors Hawk HP+ pads RBF-600 fluid No fading I ran stock brakes way back in the day and I never had any problems on the street. You guys are on crack. Furthermore, if you are running big power nothing bigger than 300zx brakes are necessary. My mentor Adam Hutchinson had a 450whp KA-T he raced for many years. He uses brembo blanks, and Hawk HT-10’s with RBF-600. Before this when he had lower hp KA-T he used only Hawk Blues. If you guys think 300zx brakes arn’t enough, you are on crack. Andrew. EDIT: a\_hamed, I own a Ford Tempo as a winter beater, I’ve done brakes on it twice in 3 years…thats because I keep eating through brakes. The frigging car can’t stop worth shit, it has rear drums and front discs. The front discs are so small they might as well use drum brakes so it might actually have good initial stopping power. ---
**Author:** ![killa\_snake](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killa_snake/32/5588_2.png) [@killa\_snake](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/killa_snake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/24 "2007-08-17T17:54:44Z")
> [@The Official Fix Mikes98RT's Truck Meet Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-fix-mikes98rts-truck-meet-thread/13504/26): > > This is hillarious, a bunch of kids that have never been to the track talking about what adequate braking systems are. You want a metaphor for this? I’ll give you a perfect one “Well, I’ve never seen a lion before, but my friend has a really big cat, so it should be a lot like that.” > If you fade stock brakes on the street, then you’re an idiot. There’s something called predictive driving, and looking at what cars infront of you are doing. I barely ever have to use my brakes on the street. If you see a whole bunch of people’s brake lights come on, even if they’re far ahead, you let off the gas and slow down, so that you don’t have to make a hard stop later on. Now I said I have never been to the track yes I admit, but I guess your cool and if i put my granma on the track and said do a couple of laps she would have authority and suddenly know everything about everything about cars and she could talk down to people on the 240 forum who are giving some test result from something they tried. And if you can read, and use your head before your mouth, I said I was TESTING it out on the street, deliberately pushing the brake. Your talking about braking from far away when there is a car in front of you, FYI there was no cars on the street I WAS TESTING MY BRAKES OUT, use your fuckin eyes and read. But I guess it doesn’t matter you’ve been to the track. I will give u a report after the 25th, with pictures, if my brakes are fading you owe me a blowjob and if their glowing you have to swallow. ---
**Author:** ![killa\_snake](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killa_snake/32/5588_2.png) [@killa\_snake](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/killa_snake)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/25 "2007-08-17T18:02:15Z")
> [@(removed)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/removed/13737/3): > > Wow - I’ll regurgitate what everyone mentioned above just so it may actually seep into your mind. Your are an idiot for posting what you did. You have no valid merits behind your little test and how can you say that proper pads and rotors dont work when you NEVER TRIED THEM! > > I cant wait for your full report on your track day. Are you retarded, your telling me that using proper pads is going to make them not glow, when proper pads are going to have more friction even when there hot. And if you mean proper pads and rotors as in 300zx I said Ive never tried those and I don’t know about them. You guys are all lowlifes this forum is so degrading now. This is exactly the kind of shit thats is make this forum a laughing stock. Admins you arn’t doing too good of a job keeping this shit talking down. ---
**Author:** ![Uniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/34f0e0/32.png) [@Uniac](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Uniac)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/26 "2007-08-17T18:07:05Z")
hahaha idiot do you know who you’re talking to? > [@So I smoked a cig tonight](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-smoked-a-cig-tonight/13744/8): > > Are you retarded, your telling me that using proper pads is going to make them not glow, when proper pads are going to have more friction even when there hot. And if you mean proper pads and rotors as in 300zx I said Ive never tried those and I don’t know about them. You guys are all lowlifes this forum is so degrading now. This is exactly the kind of shit thats is make this forum a laughing stock. Admins you arn’t doing too good of a job keeping this shit talking down. ---
**Author:** ![l2iceboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@l2iceboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/l2iceboy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/27 "2007-08-17T20:05:30Z")
is it me or do some of these posts make no sense? agh…it’s all entertaining lol ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/28 "2007-08-17T20:30:03Z")
> [@FS: 3.73 F body gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-3-73-f-body-gears/13690/5): > > a\_ahmed. Your car still auto? Wow you are fucking cool with racing seats, big brakes and an auto tranny. weak man… fucking weak. you must drive like a retard to so plz go crash your auto 240 that you paid like 5k and when you die I can get your crazyyyyy!!!1111 brakes. For once I can agree with crsbb. However, he did not spend 5k on it. He spent over $16,000 (he posted this as well) and all he has is a automatic KA S13 that brakes better than his dad’s ford taurus. wow. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/29 "2007-08-17T20:36:53Z")
Also, did no one listen to andrew? What’s with everyone thinking that you need 300zx brakes? It’s also funny since most people who want 300zx brakes don’t ever plan to track their car. It’s just a waste of money. Better pads + fluid + rotors is more than enough for the street. It’s also trackable. However, you probably wouldn’t be able to stay on the track for an hour non stop if you’re driving your car really hard. But don’t quote me on that. On another note killa snake, since we’re talking about brakes here, I think you should **stop** posting ahmed-like advice on this board. And if you don’t like this board, you should just fade away. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Zeta\_G](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zeta_g/32/5558_2.png) [@Zeta\_G](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zeta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/30 "2007-08-17T21:00:38Z")
> [@So I smoked a cig tonight](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-smoked-a-cig-tonight/13744/9): > > Also, did no one listen to andrew? What’s with everyone thinking that you need 300zx brakes? It’s also funny since most people who want 300zx brakes don’t ever plan to track their car. It’s just a waste of money. Better pads + fluid + rotors is more than enough for the street. It’s also trackable. However, you probably wouldn’t be able to stay on the track for an hour non stop if you’re driving your car really hard. But don’t quote me on that. > > On another note killa snake, since we’re talking about brakes here, I think you should **stop** posting ahmed-like advice on this board. > > And if you don’t like this board, you should just fade away. > > Thanks. i’m using HP+ up frt w/ brembo blank rotors(ABS spec) w/ HPS and no name rotor at the rear… DOT4 fluid w/ stk KADE i have no problem pushing it(it was my first lapping so i donno how to drive…) for over 30minutes no fade at all, i pitted after that cuz my tires are losing grip… ---
**Author:** ![kon\_jesse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d6d6ee/32.png) [@kon\_jesse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kon_jesse)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/31 "2007-08-17T21:17:37Z")
Since everyone is talking bout brakes i wanted to know if 300zx brakes with hawk pads would be good for my 95 240 with a s14 blacktop? ---
**Author:** ![G-E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/g-e/32/5546_2.png) [@G-E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/G-E)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/32 "2007-08-17T21:18:35Z")
brakes are dependent on tires… the bigger grippier rubber you have the more brakes you can use and the harder your brakes will work if you’re playing around on stock rims and rubber …300zx brakes will be plenty ---
**Author:** ![reconJDM](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reconjdm/32/5510_2.png) [@reconJDM](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reconJDM)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/33 "2007-08-17T21:20:23Z")
> [@Is This as Dumb as the 0.9~ = 1 Thread?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/is-this-as-dumb-as-the-0-9-1-thread/13660/5): > > Since everyone is talking bout brakes i wanted to know if 300zx brakes with hawk pads would be good for my 95 240 with a s14 blacktop? thats more than enough for both track and street usage. ---
**Author:** ![AnDrEw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AnDrEw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AnDrEw)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/34 "2007-08-17T23:49:11Z")
> [@So I smoked a cig tonight](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-smoked-a-cig-tonight/13744/11): > > i’m using HP+ up frt w/ brembo blank rotors(ABS spec) w/ HPS and no name rotor at the rear… DOT4 fluid w/ stk KADE > i have no problem pushing it(it was my first lapping so i donno how to drive…) for over 30minutes no fade at all, i pitted after that cuz my tires are losing grip… Perfect setup Vincent, thats what I’ve been running as well, except with the 180sx calipers up front and Motul fluid. You will do great with this setup on stock motor. Andrew. ---
**Author:** ![Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/35 "2007-08-18T06:37:52Z")
Thought I’d throw this out there incase many of you arent aware but… you can use a J30/Q45 Caliper in place of the 180sx Caliper etc as both the J30 and Q45 also use a 280mm x 22mm Rotor. So you can go from a single piston caliper and a 254mm x 20mm rotor to a dual piston caliper witha 280mm x 22mm rotor. This upgrade should also be cheaper then buying 180sx crap since you should be able find the Calipers @ a junk yard for no more then $30 each ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/36 "2007-08-18T08:40:08Z")
> [@So I smoked a cig tonight](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-smoked-a-cig-tonight/13744/7): > > But I guess it doesn’t matter you’ve been to the track. > > I will give u a report after the 25th, with pictures, if my brakes are fading you owe me a blowjob and if their glowing you have to swallow. LOL. So if you don’t know how to drive and fade your brakes on the track I’m wrong? The asshattery here is endless. ---
**Author:** ![Zeta\_G](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/zeta_g/32/5558_2.png) [@Zeta\_G](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zeta_G)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/37 "2007-08-18T12:44:13Z")
> [@bored...got ditched and made a vid](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bored-got-ditched-and-made-a-vid/13745/5): > > Perfect setup Vincent, thats what I’ve been running as well, except with the 180sx calipers up front and Motul fluid. You will do great with this setup on stock motor. > > Andrew. i also got a pair of 90ish maxima frt calipers w/ bracket(same caliper size as 240’s ABS spec, but the braket carrys bigger pads, and is the 180sx setup as i read on here b4) on the junk yard’s free parts day, going to send them down to the machine shop to clean them up, hopfully i can put them on next year but i’m still happy w/ wat i have for now ---
**Author:** ![GT1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@GT1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GT1)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646/38 "2007-08-18T17:51:24Z")
locked. all but a few of you are utterly retarded. never talk about something you dont know. especially if you are talking about it on the internet. google is NOT your friend… a hand gun is. use it. and end yourself. GT [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stock-brakes-garbage/108646.md?page=1)