# STS something? Vs e46 M3

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [July 15, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607 "2009-07-15T23:37:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/1 "2009-07-15T23:37:39Z")

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Coming down the XXX from home someone flew up on me, I let it pass since it was the nice thing to do.

I see its a Caddy with Fender grills, and the what looked to be the V8 symbol on it too… so I let it pass I just assume its something with 400hp and would kill me.

we hit an on ramp onto XXX and and its kind of moving about 60… I know I can take that ramp easily over 80 so I creep up to it about 65-70 and I hear his auto matic down shift, and he guns it. by the time i realize he is taking off I’m in 4th gear going 70 I floor it until about 100 and shut down since I see traffic up ahead, he takes off.

We were dead nuts all the way from 70 to 100… unfortunately 100 in 4th gear is about 5800 rpm I still have another 2100 rpm to wind out…

Needless to say I would like to give it another go 40-120, 130 roll it.

Anyone on here? Black Caddy CTS? with fender grills I really don’t know much about them but they seemed stock.

EDIT: ITS AN STS I just found pics online  
Additionally… The exhaust sounded pretty nice!

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**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/2 "2009-07-16T00:31:02Z")

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Wait… you lost to a car most grandparents drive, fo shame.

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**Author:** ![black02satsc2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/black02satsc2/32/5259_2.png) [@black02satsc2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/black02satsc2)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/3 "2009-07-16T06:24:24Z")

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> [@66impalass](#):
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> Wait… you lost to a car most grandparents drive, fo shame.

lol… thats what people say when i get a kill…

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/4 "2009-07-16T06:26:33Z")

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> [@black02satsc2](#):
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> lol… thats what people say when i get a kill…

Except you’re probably only beating cars that most poor people drive.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/5 "2009-07-16T06:28:51Z")

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STS Northstars have something like 325hp. Unless it was a -V which would have been 469, but I’m guessing it was just the regular 320hp car.

My uncle had one and that thing moved pretty good. He now has a DTS with the v8 and that thing is pretty damn awesome too. Nothing like having a quick car, with heated front and rear seats, night vision and a pearl white paint job from the factory! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/6 "2009-07-16T06:29:34Z")

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> [@ILC"](#):
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> Coming down the XXX from home someone flew up on me, I let it pass since it was the nice thing to do.
> 
> I see its a Caddy with Fender grills, and the what looked to be the V8 symbol on it too… so I let it pass I just assume its something with 400hp and would kill me.
> 
> we hit an on ramp onto XXX and and its kind of moving about 60… I know I can take that ramp easily over 80 so I creep up to it about 65-70 and I hear his auto matic down shift, and he guns it. by the time i realize he is taking off I’m in 4th gear going 70 I floor it until about 100 and shut down since I see traffic up ahead, he takes off.
> 
> We were dead nuts all the way from 70 to 100… unfortunately 100 in 4th gear is about 5800 rpm I still have another 2100 rpm to wind out…
> 
> Needless to say I would like to give it another go 40-120, 130 roll it.
> 
> Anyone on here? Black Caddy CTS? with fender grills I really don’t know much about them but they seemed stock.
> 
> EDIT: ITS AN STS I just found pics online  
> Additionally… The exhaust sounded pretty nice!

The STS with the V8 is the standard northstar, 320HP. Sounds like a good run for him as they’re quite heavy and have slushboxes.

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**Author:** ![black02satsc2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/black02satsc2/32/5259_2.png) [@black02satsc2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/black02satsc2)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/7 "2009-07-16T06:32:39Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> Except you’re probably only beating cars that poor people drive.

sometimes… depends on what that is though… i dont go out trying to race everyone on the road, only people that want to play around and if i feel like it. i’ve taken my fair share of supercharged w-bodies. took a 350z a few weeks back as well (in PA). no one expects a saturn to be built and keep up with them haha, i just enjoy the looks on people faces.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/8 "2009-07-16T07:09:37Z")

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How built is it?

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/9 "2009-07-16T07:16:28Z")

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> [@black02satsc2](#):
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> sometimes… depends on what that is though… i dont go out trying to race everyone on the road, only people that want to play around and if i feel like it. i’ve taken my fair share of supercharged w-bodies. took a 350z a few weeks back as well (in PA). no one expects a saturn to be built and keep up with them haha, i just enjoy the looks on people faces.

:lol:

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**Author:** ![black02satsc2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/black02satsc2/32/5259_2.png) [@black02satsc2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/black02satsc2)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/10 "2009-07-16T07:19:37Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> How built is it?

fully built motor… forged rods, hyper pistons, decked head .040’', oversized valves, P&P that doubled the size of the intake ports (took a lot out of this head lol), performance cams, shimmed… only things left before i boost it will be a full standalone, slightly bigger injectors, and the blower itself. no one ever expects a saturn…

i’ve heard all the crap for driving a saturn so im use to it. i love workin on my car and racing it when i can, so the wins i get are sweet. the loses i take are just another loss for saturn, not the first and not the last lol, its expected.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/11 "2009-07-16T07:20:18Z")

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an sts-v would be a good match for the M3

they both run low 13s

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/12 "2009-07-16T07:20:33Z")

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an sts-v would be a good match for the M3

they both run low 13s

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/13 "2009-07-16T07:31:19Z")

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good attitude.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Twinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@Mr.Twinkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mr.Twinkie)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/14 "2009-07-17T10:30:25Z")

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My guess would be that you raced a STS-V which are somewhat rare around here I’ve only seen 3 (Black, Blue and Silver) I doubt a regular STS would beat your M3 unless you suck at driving lol

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/15 "2009-07-17T10:41:55Z")

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If he was in fourth I could easily see an STS taking him.

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**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/16 "2009-07-17T10:46:00Z")

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A V logo is hard to miss on a black car

![http://photos.liquidmotors.com/Processed/Leith_Chrysler_Dodge_Jeep/1G6DX67D080105631-8655202/1G6DX67D080105631_015_LG.jpg](http://photos.liquidmotors.com/Processed/Leith_Chrysler_Dodge_Jeep/1G6DX67D080105631-8655202/1G6DX67D080105631_015_LG.jpg)

vs

![[http://i.ebayimg.com/18/](http://i.ebayimg.com/18/)!!fClOGQBWE~$(KGrHgoOKj8EjlLmUE61BK(0LhBFJw~~\_4.JPG]([http://i.ebayimg.com/18/](http://i.ebayimg.com/18/)!!fClOGQBWE~$(KGrHgoOKj8EjlLmUE61BK(0LhBFJw~~\_4.JPG)

I drove my dad’s 08’ STS-4 with a performace package and it got out of it’s own way. My guess the 2WD ones are even quicker.

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**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/17 "2009-07-17T10:51:12Z")

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the sts are fwd correct?

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/18 "2009-07-17T10:53:26Z")

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RWD since this generation started. DTS is the only FWD cadillac left except the 2 wheel drive SRX

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/19 "2009-07-17T11:00:19Z")

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> [@BigRon](#):
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> A V logo is hard to miss on a black car

Yep it had the V badge.

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**Author:** ![ILC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilc/32/5337_2.png) [@ILC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILC)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sts-something-vs-e46-m3/70607/20 "2009-07-17T11:05:28Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> If he was in fourth I could easily see an STS taking him.

yea unfortunately I really didn’t get a chance to wind out the motor. I cut out at just shy of 6K rpm

From race start at about 3700 to 6K I’m only at about 200- 250whp. I really miss out on the 25more whp for another 2K rpm to wind through.

Again it wasn’t really a race it was more like a get on it and go, and it was dead even. I would like to try another crack at it.
