# Stun Guns and Personal Defence

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [August 27, 2007, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055 "2007-08-27T08:28:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![F-B-A](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/f-b-a/32/6022_2.png) [@F-B-A](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/F-B-A)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/21 "2007-08-27T15:57:19Z")

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agreed again. you seem to always make a valid point.  
I guess i have to get shot 1st, then return fire, at least then i can say i was protecting myself from death.

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/22 "2007-08-27T15:59:11Z")

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> [@IROC is 95% done, 1st Startup VID plus NEW pix\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/iroc-is-95-done-1st-startup-vid-plus-new-pix/31721/60):
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> agreed again. you seem to always make a valid point.  
> I guess i have to get shot 1st, then return fire, at least then i can say i was protecting myself from death.

then you’re off the hook, society forced him into a life of crime.

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/23 "2007-08-27T16:11:53Z")

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> [@RodandPiston.com Super Cruise pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/rodandpiston-com-super-cruise-pics/32082/24):
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> hand gun

X3495034

> [@\*OFFICIAL\* Buffalo Sabres 2007 Off-Season Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-2007-off-season-thread/30906/393):
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> while i would prefer just to blast someone… its probably a better idea to just pepper spray or a stun gun cause then you wont have to deal with all the after shit like a possible trial for wasting the POS

Dead men dont talk.

To be honest, I have been in a few bar fights where LEOs came in sparying, and it really isn’t that bad. I know it didn’t stop me from fighting, and it didn’t stop many others. I would est. less then 10% stopped due to being sprayed. Anyone that is determinded, I don’t see spray as much help.

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**Author:** ![dgramc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dgramc/32/5934_2.png) [@dgramc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dgramc)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/24 "2007-08-27T17:07:38Z")

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OC is def the safest thing for her to carry. Although it really isnt that bad. and if you have a strong desire to do something it wll probably get done.

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**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/25 "2007-08-27T17:49:22Z")

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> [@Hey guys, lets clambake under a parachute!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-guys-lets-clambake-under-a-parachute/32156/11):
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> civil immunity  
> _Amending Titles 18 (Crimes and Offenses) and 42 (Judiciary and  
> Judicial Procedure) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated  
> Statutes, further providing, in general principles of  
> justification, for definitions, for use of force in self-  
> protection and for use of force for the protection of other  
> persons; and providing for civil immunity for use of force._  
> source:  
> [HOUSE BILL 2231 P.N. 3110](http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&sessYr=2005&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=2231&pn=3110)

Thanks for the link. I stand corrected, and I’m happy to be corrected in this instance.

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/26 "2007-08-27T19:46:48Z")

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generally the assholes of the black community that do the shootings are retards that sell drugs and hold their gun sideways not realizing it’s harder to take recoil when firing like that…and they also think bigger is better…i doubt the NAACP is going to bend you over when they see a .45 laying next to some guy with some dime bags in his pocket

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**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/27 "2007-08-27T23:44:17Z")

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> [@Sweet ass Talon I found Another Forum](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sweet-ass-talon-i-found-another-forum/32136/10):
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> generally the assholes of the black community that do the shootings are retards that sell drugs and hold their gun sideways not realizing it’s harder to take recoil when firing like that…and they also think bigger is better…i doubt the NAACP is going to bend you over when they see a .45 laying next to some guy with some dime bags in his pocket

do you see the crap they stick up for? once something is in the media, even at the local level…if its about something white and black they are there. but if its black on black… they could care less… it doesnt suit their agenda

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/28 "2007-08-28T00:35:47Z")

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^^^ i tend not to give a damn about situations like that because the general populous of this country are idiots, double standards are an everyday thing and it makes me sick…

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**Author:** ![thebaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f14d63/32.png) [@thebaron](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/thebaron)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/29 "2007-08-28T10:44:43Z")

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> [@dads camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-camaro/32137/50):
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> but if its black on black… they could care less… it doesnt suit their agenda

Break out the shoe polish for the press:ugh2: Beware the pimps of black civil “rights”, since they just want their money.:stick:

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**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/30 "2007-08-28T11:41:27Z")

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> [@Can State Park Police issue Speeding Tickets? LMAO!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-state-park-police-issue-speeding-tickets-lmao/26512/22):
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> oh and stun guns cannot kill you if your perfectly healthy…but sure if u stun grandpa he’ll die, it’s amperage that stops the heart & fries the brain…not voltage

V= I X R

where do you pull this shit out of?

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**Author:** ![JackdUp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jackdup/32/6015_2.png) [@JackdUp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JackdUp)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/31 "2007-08-28T15:29:10Z")

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90,000 volts at just 1 amp would be MORE than sufficient to kill King Kong.

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/32 "2007-08-28T16:32:51Z")

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> [@dads camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dads-camaro/32137/57):
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> V= I X R
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> where do you pull this shit out of?

anyone who knows anything about electricity knows that its amperage that kills you not voltage…even the average lightning bolt isn’t enough to stop your heart(30,000volts). I read up on certain things to see how they work, stun guns happened to be one of them. A perfectly healthy person will not die from the average stun gun because they have somewhere around 1-2.5 milliamps which is nowhere near enough to kill someone. Go read up and you will see

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/33 "2007-08-28T18:40:29Z")

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> [@War with Iran?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/war-with-iran/32178/5):
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> anyone who knows anything about electricity knows that its amperage that kills you not voltage…even the average lightning bolt isn’t enough to stop your heart(30,000volts). I read up on certain things to see how they work, stun guns happened to be one of them. A perfectly healthy person will not die from the average stun gun because they have somewhere around 1-2.5 milliamps which is nowhere near enough to kill someone. Go read up and you will see

Exactly, I’m an electrician of 20+ years, if it was the voltage, I would have been many times over.

It is this exact reason that more people die every year from 120 Volt AC (typical outlet in your house) then from 10,000+ volts. Everyone thinks it’s only 120, but they forget that the average 120 outlet in a house has a minimum amperage potential of 15+ amps. If memory serves me you need a minim of 500 miliamps(1/2 amp) to change a heart beat or cause death.

But don’t whack the guy with a pacemaker with your stun gun…:scared:

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**Author:** ![JC\_Turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/958977/32.png) [@JC\_Turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JC_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/34 "2007-09-02T13:33:46Z")

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> [@Hey guys, lets clambake under a parachute!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hey-guys-lets-clambake-under-a-parachute/32156/4):
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> Im looking to get my girlfriend of 3 years some kind of protection and am looking into this [http://www.pantherstunguns.com/king\_cobra\_police\_model.htm](http://www.pantherstunguns.com/king_cobra_police_model.htm)
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> can anyone tell me about this or any stun guns? do they pass through metal detectors? are they legal? can they cause death?

They are not legal. Section 908 of the PA. Crimes Code lists a stun gun as a prohibited offensive weapon.

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/35 "2007-09-03T11:05:08Z")

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> [@7.13 Whos down for Rockys Pizza](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/7-13-whos-down-for-rockys-pizza/32245/3):
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> They are not legal. Section 908 of the PA. Crimes Code lists a stun gun as a prohibited offensive weapon.

pennsylvania polices EVERYTHING…

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**Author:** ![SK360](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sk360/32/5933_2.png) [@SK360](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SK360)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/36 "2007-09-05T10:18:58Z")

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go down to the court house, have her apply for a concealed carry permit, buy her a Springfield XD 9mm or .40 subcompact, enroll her in a concealed carry class and be done with it

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**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stun-guns-and-personal-defence/192055/37 "2007-09-07T13:49:08Z")

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> [@SHIT... File Recovery? V.CrazyJon](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shit-file-recovery-v-crazyjon/32254/35):
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> go down to the court house, have her apply for a concealed carry permit, buy her a Springfield XD 9mm or .40 subcompact, enroll her in a concealed carry class and be done with it

Not sure where you are from, but down in youngwood, there is a place called A&S Shooting, they GREAT carry clases…

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