# Stunt Driving Law Deemed Unconstitutional. **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [September 4, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766 "2009-09-04T11:26:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/81 "2009-11-23T13:48:59Z")
> [@Official Skiing/Snowboarding Meet Thread Winter 06-07!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-skiing-snowboarding-meet-thread-winter-06-07/21146/240): > > there should be classes of licensing other than G. > > after G you should be able to get technical driving certifications and car-specific certifications that support your ability to travel at faster speeds. > > the same way a nexus card deems you low-risk for crossing the border these certifications could give you another 20kph priviledge on 400 series highways. > > The laws have to reflect the general ability. For everyone of us that is a pretty talented driver there are a dozen or so people like one of my brothers and my sister who can’t drive for shit in an automatic car… i wont even drive with them they are so inexperienced behind the wheel… the law is for their benefit. > > this shit would also mean that more people get more training to drive and in general it would increase road safety… these certifications would lower insurance too so you wouldnt just get htem to drive faster and it doesnt necessarily mean you will drive faster anyways A more advanced graduated licensing system. I’ve always wondered about that. I seriously doubt that would happen. Yet, if it did. I could see the higher classed drivers being deemed “more dangerous” to the public and police, even though they/we would have a higher grade license. Lanes should be; right - 100km/h - 120km/h center - passing lane left - 140km/h (at least) up to…160km/h? something a long those lines. Traffic would be cut immensely. MUCH less accidents. I can not count how many close calls I have had from people cutting into the hammer lane right in front of me while I’m cruising at 130. Then they drive at 100km/h. Like…are you fucking kidding me!!! ---
**Author:** ![ryangaudoin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71e660/32.png) [@ryangaudoin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ryangaudoin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/82 "2009-11-23T14:03:42Z")
ahhh time to just get a muscle car with a supercharger and the cops wont bother you ---
**Author:** ![240sex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/22d042/32.png) [@240sex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240sex)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/83 "2009-11-23T14:23:03Z")
apparently on citytv tonight at 6 there is supposed to be a section about this law. i may check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Ko-San](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ko-San](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ko-San)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/84 "2009-11-23T15:44:25Z")
> [@name some high reving v6's](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/name-some-high-reving-v6s/24920/41): > > Lanes should be; > > right - 100km/h - 120km/h > center - passing lane > left - 140km/h (at least) up to…160km/h? > > something a long those lines. > > Traffic would be cut immensely. MUCH less accidents. > I can not count how many close calls I have had from people cutting into the hammer lane right in front of me while I’m cruising at 130. Then they drive at 100km/h. Like…are you fucking kidding me!!! agreed about the cruising and someone is driving 100… them following speed is actually more dangerous just because 120 is normal on highways but i dont think theyll make middle lane passing lane because youd have people switching from both the 160 and the 100 lanes into the middle one which can get hectic ---
**Author:** ![OneEightZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c6cbf5/32.png) [@OneEightZero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneEightZero)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/85 "2009-11-23T16:26:20Z")
I don’t mind the speed limits now cause no matter how good of a driver you are you have to worry about all the shitty ass drivers. I’m less scared of speeders then, people driving retarted slow and swerving and changing lanes without giving a fuck, but the thing that pisses me off is when i see people driving a foot or two behind someone, its the stupidest thing and drives me crazy. I could be driving 130 - 140 in the left lane going with the flow of traffic and have some 30 year old women, in their lexus SUV, fly up behind me a meter from my bumper and expect me to get out of the way, so they can just speed up on the net persons bumper. Drives me insane!! ---
**Author:** ![izzo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/izzo/32/5769_2.png) [@izzo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/izzo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/86 "2009-11-23T16:32:18Z")
^ that only happens when i do 100 on left lane… ---
**Author:** ![OneEightZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c6cbf5/32.png) [@OneEightZero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OneEightZero)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/87 "2009-11-23T16:49:34Z")
Well, i got 130 -140 in the left lane and go with traffic and it will happen, i think thats more unsafe then people going 160 ---
**Author:** ![izzo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/izzo/32/5769_2.png) [@izzo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/izzo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/88 "2009-11-23T16:53:34Z")
next time cross your fingers and tap your brake in and out… might be lucky enough to get some gts subframe installed lol lol just my 2 cent… dont try this at home… you might not be soo lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Philly](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/philly/32/5748_2.png) [@Philly](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Philly)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/89 "2009-11-23T17:54:54Z")
> [@Official Skiing/Snowboarding Meet Thread Winter 06-07!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-skiing-snowboarding-meet-thread-winter-06-07/21146/240): > > there should be classes of licensing other than G. > > after G you should be able to get technical driving certifications and car-specific certifications that support your ability to travel at faster speeds. > > the same way a nexus card deems you low-risk for crossing the border these certifications could give you another 20kph priviledge on 400 series highways. > > The laws have to reflect the general ability. For everyone of us that is a pretty talented driver there are a dozen or so people like one of my brothers and my sister who can’t drive for shit in an automatic car… i wont even drive with them they are so inexperienced behind the wheel… the law is for their benefit. > > this shit would also mean that more people get more training to drive and in general it would increase road safety… these certifications would lower insurance too so you wouldnt just get htem to drive faster and it doesnt necessarily mean you will drive faster anyways I agree we would have to have different coloured plates for the pigs to distinguish who is legally allowed to travel at a certain rate of speed. ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/90 "2009-11-24T05:16:25Z")
> [@Official Skiing/Snowboarding Meet Thread Winter 06-07!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-skiing-snowboarding-meet-thread-winter-06-07/21146/240): > > there should be classes of licensing other than G. > > after G you should be able to get technical driving certifications and car-specific certifications that support your ability to travel at faster speeds. I have always had this idea… and it would work if different plates were issued for people who have advanced licenses’, and then for those permitted to travel over 140km/h, those plates could only be attached to an equally capable car, NO SUV’s or minvans with coloured advanced plates. ---
**Author:** ![newstar31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@newstar31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newstar31)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/91 "2009-11-24T16:04:54Z")
Realistically, this will never happen because the costs and effort will be too great to allow some people to travel a greater speeds. I say just make it harder for people to get licenses. Don’t forget, you can buy your licence, if you know the right people so this does not help the situation. We need to have stricter rules and tests every time we have to renew our licence. And of course to eliminate all the corrupt instructors. In the end,we just need to get a track closer to the GTA to give drivers a closer place to go. ---
**Author:** ![izzo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/izzo/32/5769_2.png) [@izzo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/izzo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/92 "2009-11-24T16:17:00Z")
i like the idea of having a track closer to gta. but come on. tests every time we have to renew our licence? well i got lots of time in my hand. but im pretty sure lots of other people dont. when i used to work for someone else i miss a day of work or half day of work i miss a chunk of my paycheck. and for sure you wont be there for half a day. ---
**Author:** ![izzo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/izzo/32/5769_2.png) [@izzo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/izzo)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/93 "2009-11-24T16:20:14Z")
plus. even if you do 160/h you wont be there any faster then people who does 120/h… maybe you ll save 5 min… and lets say they do change the law lol like 160 on left lane… that would be a deadly idea… just look at the hov lane on 403… unless you do some 400km + run. ---
**Author:** ![240xcsv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/bbe5ce/32.png) [@240xcsv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240xcsv)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/94 "2009-11-25T06:18:45Z")
> [@you ever feel like......](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/you-ever-feel-like/24949/15): > > plus. even if you do 160/h you wont be there any faster then people who does 120/h… > maybe you ll save 5 min… > > and lets say they do change the law lol like 160 on left lane… that would be a deadly idea… just look at the hov lane on 403… > > unless you do some 400km + run. 100km/hr = 100kilometers traveled in 1 hour or 200kilometers traveled in 2 hours 200km/hr = 200kilometers traveled in 1 hour or… 100kilometers traveled in 30minutes. The only time going faster doesn’t get you some place faster is if you make alot of stops. In either case that 5-10minutes coming home earlier can make a difference between you having a shitty drive from work/traffic vs relaxing after a busy day at work. I’m pretty pissed when I end up driving 1 hr what should take me 15minutes because of incompetent drivers and rush hours/jams, etc… The problem is not speed but the whole system as I’ve been complaining about for the last 3 some years. The roads suck and are garbage… the system sucks and is garbage. No I can’t make a difference but at least I can voice my opinion. The government will never approve something that doesn’t make them money. ---
**Author:** ![87s15lt1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/87s15lt1/32/5706_2.png) [@87s15lt1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/87s15lt1)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/95 "2009-11-25T06:59:54Z")
> [@Newman's 1986 BMW 326rb build thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-1986-bmw-326rb-build-thread/22123/632): > > The government will never approve something that doesn’t make them money. Going to have to agree with you there!!! ---
**Author:** ![PureEuroM3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@PureEuroM3](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PureEuroM3)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/96 "2009-11-25T07:31:08Z")
love the graduating license system thing but one problem. We can’t even get three down as the everlasting drive test strikers are still whining. It costs way to much money to issue special licenses, special plate colors, inspect vehicles running these plate(what make you think half the 240’s here would pass btw) and of course the condition of the roads here in most cases are not suitable for excess speeds. ---
**Author:** ![240xcsv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/bbe5ce/32.png) [@240xcsv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/240xcsv)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766/97 "2009-11-25T08:02:01Z")
^Hah funny that you said that it will cost money to create extra plates, etc… The government is issuing ‘green plates’ for ‘green cars’ with even perks (special parking spots, special HVO lane privilege even by being by yourself, special discounts, etc…) Because ‘green cars’ make money and cost money. As long as it makes the government money it’ll happen. They will never abolish laws or things that will make them not get the money they are getting. I totally agree with the whole extra grades/classes/licenses = privileges… as well as better roads which I can’t stress enough… this is the sort of thing I was suggesting/whining about for the last 3 years… but … it’s just not going to happen if there isn’t enough people whining about it… plus when it comes to money the government will find venues to silence that opposition. Just saying… otherwise how Bing outlined it is fantastic but alas. I always talk about the autobahn and Germany… and this and that about roads in Europe… but… if it can work in other countries it could work here… its just that there is a completely different mentality set in place, different government, different drivers. Even the whole ‘sticker’ every year thing is bullshit… WOW a sticker! Give me a break… its just money money money. The government is getting more than enough money as is… and is trying to suppress/control even more while making even more money. All the double speak about safety/better for you is full of crap imo. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving-law-deemed-unconstitutional/127766.md?page=4)