# Stunt Driving?

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [December 4, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341 "2008-12-04T01:44:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/41 "2008-12-04T11:38:20Z")

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I know its true seeing as how i’ve gone through alot of this.  
But besides that, think about it…

Its contradictory to himself…hes lieing (if your telling the truth). Catch him in his lie (if the storys true) and it he won’t stand a chance in court.

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**Author:** ![Browntown\_01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Browntown\_01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Browntown_01)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/42 "2008-12-04T11:39:24Z")

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you need to seriously look at your ticket/ summons, I’m 100% certain he did not charge you with street racing, I’m willing to bet it says something like “Stunt driving by way of …”

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/43 "2008-12-04T11:39:29Z")

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BTW THANKS EVERYONE who cares to give me good advice.  
So … anyone know any good lawyers who can take care of this properly? Is there ANY WAY I can cut short of the impound and license suspension?

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**Author:** ![Martino](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/martino/32/5674_2.png) [@Martino](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Martino)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/44 "2008-12-04T11:41:09Z")

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No, the fees you’ve paid are far long my friend.  
How much were the fee’s btw?

I payed $703 (including taxes) after the week was said and done.

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**Author:** ![Browntown\_01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Browntown\_01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Browntown_01)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/45 "2008-12-04T11:41:27Z")

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If your telling the truth you need to document this ASAP, times and dates, names and badges, and file for full disclouser of his notes and files etc… This is info you need, you can win but you need to act fast otherwise they will use that against you

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**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/46 "2008-12-04T11:44:36Z")

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Yeah, if you’re telling the truth, you need to do your research and work your ass off to get the truth out. Anything that raises reasonable doubt.

However, in the off chance you’re lying, you don’t have a case whatsoever. Just get a lawyer and hope it gets dropped to a lower charge.

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**Author:** ![Browntown\_01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Browntown\_01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Browntown_01)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/47 "2008-12-04T11:45:02Z")

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It’s sad to say but if you were far from the impound lot then they will take you too the cleaners on towing, and the impound fee is between $60-100 a day… you will not get this back or reduced, keep in mind a good lawyer (not a paralegal) is around $800-1000 if they know they have to argue the charter, but if your telling the truth and you document all of the events and bring them to a lawyer I think you stand a good chance to not have to fight the charter or even take it that far.

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**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/48 "2008-12-04T11:51:23Z")

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I don’t understand how, because of our rights, a lawyer couldn’t argue that

A) Since you were NOT given your right “innocent until proven guilty”

and

B) You were since proven innocent as opposed to guilty (say your ticket is dropped completely)

you get all your money back that was caused by a shitty law that breaks your rights in half and then, on top of that, get proven INNOCENT yet you’re STILL punished for…

Nothing.

If I were stuck with this shit, I would have the lawyer beat the shit out of the case until I got SOMETHING back from that. The logic is too plain for a court to say “lol not giving you anything”.

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**Author:** ![Browntown\_01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Browntown\_01](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Browntown_01)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/49 "2008-12-04T11:53:33Z")

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You make sense jpod, it’s stupid… it goes against the charter but yet they can keep our money… it’s obvious what is important

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**Author:** ![educated\_Idiot](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/educated_idiot/32/5684_2.png) [@educated\_Idiot](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/educated_Idiot)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/50 "2008-12-04T12:03:43Z")

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> [@What don't you like about your car?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-dont-you-like-about-your-car/19355/48):
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> ya guys, sometimes I think when someone makes a mistake we can bash at them without giving them good advice.
> 
> He must be scared or freaking out, so any good advice would help, he already made the mistake now we can’t keep bashing him  
> what’s done is done.
> 
> –grab a good lawyer that’s experienced in this new “stunt driving law”  
> u better save yourself from getting a record like that :S

Exactly, if something has been said in a previous post, why would you continue to say it again…and again? He has admitted his faults in the situation. Criticism is not helpful unless it is constructive. If you’ve posted just to rant, or point out the idiocy of his actions, you’re not far above his situation.

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/51 "2008-12-04T12:07:51Z")

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> [@good not so average rock bands](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/good-not-so-average-rock-bands/19346/21):
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> Ok I was seriously giving you good advice… you NEED a lawyer, there is no two ways about it, most of the damage is done, they towed and impounded your car and you have no license for a week, this CANNOT be un done, regardless of what you get charged with in the end, this is the problem, you have already been told you were guilty when in fact according to the charter of rights and freedoms you are innocent until proven guilty by a judge. But this is money and time you will never get back, so put it in the past it’s done. Now what you need to do right away is make notes, the best notes you have ever made,recall everything that happend, EVERYTHING, how he talked to you, what he said, if he showed you what was wrong, if he showed you your speed, the reason he gave you for everything, make a file of this asap don’t waste time because you might forget things. Rember the cop made notes too, it is his job, his notes will be good, you need to be better.
> 
> Now because of the offence you will be requried to appear in court, if you hire a good lawyer then they will appear in court for you, all this first apperence is, is a meeting, your lawyer will talk to the justice of the peace and pretty much just say “look are you going to drop this or not?” and most likley they will not, then the next step will be to set a date to sate a date for the trial, once again your lawyer will have to appear in court to set a date for your trial, the way things are now this will take months, always plead not guilty.
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> During these months you need to prepare, take photos of the scene from every angle, YOU must take these photos no one else. Read any and everything you can, people have faught and won these cases, just be smart about it, talk to your lawyer about everything from the radar gun he used to the way he charged you, remeber in court you need solid evidence because it’s the cop’s word against yours, they will be trying to trip you up and expose holes in your defence, BUT the most important thing to remeber is to get a lawyer asap and move on with your life, it has happened and your not going to be able to un do what is done, so move on.

THANK YOU for the good advice!!!  
I wasn’t speeding… But the cop never said anything about speed… or noise… I didn’t get speeding charges either.  
Shit… when they handed me the pink slips and told me to sign, I was so freaked out I don’t even remember where I passed the van anymore… shit. All I remember was that I drove for like a minute before I got pulled over… Got to make notes right now…

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**Author:** ![Polar\_s13](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/polar_s13/32/5572_2.png) [@Polar\_s13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Polar_s13)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/52 "2008-12-04T12:08:21Z")

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> [@IM NEW!!!! lol](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/im-new-lol/19236/127):
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> HERE’S THE TWIST. I talked to the cop after getting pulled over, he looked under the hood and all that stuff and told me my car is not safe to drive because its got no horn and wiper arms. He said it would need to be towed, and HE AGREED TO HAVE IT TOWED TO MY HOUSE with their tow truck. I asked twice in order to verify. Then I was asked to sit in the car while he gets the tow truck. I was expecting “operate unsafe vehicle” charges.  
> Next thing, another cruiser shows up, the cop goes into the 1st cruiser and were chilling for like 20 minutes. He then goes back to his cruiser and takes off, pretty much flooring his car.  
> The tow truck comes, I help the tow truck driver load my car onto the tow truck. The cop returns, and gives me these pink papers. Tells me to sign to realize my car will be impounded and license suspended. Not to say I was shocked!!! After long argument he basically stuck to saying that I was fishtailing when passing the van. He told me to talk to the judge. He told me that it was the law, and that he saw me fish tail. What could I do? Grab his gun and shoot him??

After reading this why did you sign these pink papers the cop is fucking with you (fuckin dirty pigs) if you did’nt sign those papers they cannot take your car away. You should have told him to suck a dick and that you will get the car towed on your own to your house because it might be unsafe to drive but you did nothing illeagal because for all they know your wipers could have been stolen in a parking lot and horn fuse could have went out on its own. On these papers he gave you to sign what did it exactly say, because if it says anything to you agreeing to having your car towed and taken away because of stunt driving than I dunno but I think you might be in some serious shit. Either way fucking rape this cop in court and make sure if you are proven innocent you ask for all the money they have taken for all your time and stress. Cops these days are bunch of fucking dumb dick riding faggots they test your intelligence in the law and your rights everytime you come in contact with them, I myself have had alot of incomings with cops that now i know how to handle them because they are not smart at all …if they were smart they would’nt be a bitch who goes around looking for people doing pety crimes they would be sargeant or something higher up.

Anyways Goodluck!

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/53 "2008-12-04T12:10:35Z")

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> [@Review: EMPIRE Grill](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/review-empire-grill/19370/11):
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> you need to seriously look at your ticket/ summons, I’m 100% certain he did not charge you with street racing, I’m willing to bet it says something like “Stunt driving by way of …”

On my license suspension notice it says:  
… was notified of his/her suspension “STUNT DRIVING” reason “RACING”.

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/54 "2008-12-04T12:15:43Z")

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> [@AFI in rochester](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/afi-in-rochester/19366/6):
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> No, the fees you’ve paid are far long my friend.  
> How much were the fee’s btw?
> 
> I payed $703 (including taxes) after the week was said and done.

Shit… $703… is that just impounding fee and tow truck alone?  
I also heard that it cost $200 to reinstate the driver license…  
omg…

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/55 "2008-12-04T12:19:26Z")

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> [@FS: 88 GMC 4x4 and 91 Chevy 1500WT CHEAP!!! ---PICS FROM TODAY](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-88-gmc-4x4-and-91-chevy-1500wt-cheap-pics-from-today/19373/5):
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> I don’t understand how, because of our rights, a lawyer couldn’t argue that
> 
> A) Since you were NOT given your right “innocent until proven guilty”
> 
> and
> 
> B) You were since proven innocent as opposed to guilty (say your ticket is dropped completely)
> 
> you get all your money back that was caused by a shitty law that breaks your rights in half and then, on top of that, get proven INNOCENT yet you’re STILL punished for…
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> If I were stuck with this shit, I would have the lawyer beat the shit out of the case until I got SOMETHING back from that. The logic is too plain for a court to say “lol not giving you anything”.

I think the legislators r trying to generate revenue for their friends and allies. This is pure robbery. Any cop can be in a bad mood, pull someone over for nothing, and fu(k them over just cause they feel like it. They might as well ditch the court system and use the system protrayed in Judge Dread, that ghetto 90s stallone movie.

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**Author:** ![jpod89](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jpod89/32/5688_2.png) [@jpod89](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jpod89)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/56 "2008-12-04T12:19:31Z")

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When I got my careless driving charge, the cop (on the court date) full-out privately admitted to my lawyer that he knew it wasn’t careless driving, he “just wanted to prove a point” so it’s very possible he’s a jerk.

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/57 "2008-12-04T12:37:12Z")

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> [@Voucher for a Casino Night stay w/ $150.00 for food.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/voucher-for-a-casino-night-stay-w-150-00-for-food/19033/37):
>
> After reading this why did you sign these pink papers the cop is fucking with you (fuckin dirty pigs) if you did’nt sign those papers they cannot take your car away. You should have told him to suck a dick and that you will get the car towed on your own to your house because it might be unsafe to drive but you did nothing illeagal because for all they know your wipers could have been stolen in a parking lot and horn fuse could have went out on its own. On these papers he gave you to sign what did it exactly say, because if it says anything to you agreeing to having your car towed and taken away because of stunt driving than I dunno but I think you might be in some serious shit. Either way fucking rape this cop in court and make sure if you are proven innocent you ask for all the money they have taken for all your time and stress. Cops these days are bunch of fucking dumb dick riding faggots they test your intelligence in the law and your rights everytime you come in contact with them, I myself have had alot of incomings with cops that now i know how to handle them because they are not smart at all …if they were smart they would’nt be a bitch who goes around looking for people doing pety crimes they would be sargeant or something higher up.
> 
> Anyways Goodluck!

The pink paper I had to sign pretty much says “We hereby notify u that ur license is now suspended because of Stunt Driving and Racing. Know it.”  
The other pink slip pretty much says that “We got your car, its in this pound. HA HA”.  
You’re right… I should have stood my ground… I should not have let them do anything until I get my lawyer present. Shit. I was so shocked when they ambushed me with this tho… i.e. saying they let me go and then handing me pink papers… it felt like the cop pistol whipped across the side of my skull… i felt all dizzy and unable to think.

We should all know that… and whoever don’t realize, should really try to learn from my mistake. ITS STUPID TO COORPORATE WITH THE POLICE WHEN THE SITUATION IS SERIOUS. It only leads to getting more fu(ked. I’d like to see u guys try to disagree with me.

I always thought that the best way to deal with cops is to be courtious… it had worked in the past, but I haven’t been pulled over for the last several years, and as I said my record is now cleaned. No tickets last 5 yrs. And so, inexperience takes its toll. ☹

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/58 "2008-12-04T12:43:46Z")

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> [@Official 2006 Halloween Costume Idea Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-2006-halloween-costume-idea-thread/18353/101):
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> When I got my careless driving charge, the cop (on the court date) full-out privately admitted to my lawyer that he knew it wasn’t careless driving, he “just wanted to prove a point” so it’s very possible he’s a jerk.

Thats horrible. And now with the new laws the cops has so much more power. Honestly, there r some cops who r so stupid and ghetto, and have the mind of a thug. Thats why our constitution was created, in order to have a fair system.

These new laws r just fu(ked. It gives any cop the power to make someone pay up $1000+ immediately just because they feel like it.

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**Author:** ![cuteS14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@cuteS14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cuteS14)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/59 "2008-12-04T12:56:03Z")

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THANK YOU to all the ones who cares to give me advice!! I really appreciate it!

And TO ALL THE HATERS: many of u veterans in this club. I know some of u veterans had been complaining for years about how SON is becoming like the Civic club… And now you know why? Just look at the way u guys post!!

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**Author:** ![newstar31](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@newstar31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newstar31)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/stunt-driving/120341/60 "2008-12-04T13:12:42Z")

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sucks to hear this happened, its happening all too often now with these new laws  
just wondering where did this happen, major intersection?  
imo, fight it, you are definitely going to lose money but u can somewhat salvage the situation  
i know another member on here going through the same thing, ill pm u his username and hopefully he can help u out  
but here’s the best outcome, u have to pay the impound fees, and the lawyer fees, and u get charged with a lesser offence  
this might redeem ur driving record but like i said, best case scenario

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