# Subaru Drivers are cunning... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287 "2009-09-09T16:10:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/1 "2009-09-09T16:10:05Z")
> **[Man Avoids 37 Speed Camera Tickets By Wearing Monkey Mask](https://jalopnik.com/5355617/man-avoids-37-speed-camera-tickets-by-wearing-monkey-mask)** > > Authorities have sent 37 speeding tickets to Dave Vontesmar, claiming he'd been captured each time by speed camera. Dave denies he's at fault, saying he doesn't resemble the monkey driver portrayed in camera images. ![http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/12/2009/09/500x_MOnkey_Mask_Driver.jpg](http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/12/2009/09/500x_MOnkey_Mask_Driver.jpg) Authorities have sent 37 [speeding tickets](http://jalopnik.com/tag/speeding-tickets/) to Dave Vontesmar, claiming he’d been captured each time by speed camera. Dave denies he’s at fault, saying he doesn’t resemble the monkey driver portrayed in camera images. Police claim to have done surveillance on Vontesmar and observed him putting on a monkey mask before hitting the Arizona street, proving without a shadow of a doubt he’s at the helm of the distinctive Subaru, thus the issuance of the many, many tickets. Faced with the evidence, Vontesmar responded, “Not one of them there is a picture where you can identify the driver, the ball’s in their court. I sent back all these ones I got with a copy of my drivers license, and said, ‘It’s not me. I’m not paying them.’” Ballsy. It seems to us the police have a case for _one_ of the traffic tickets, if it were issued on the day of their surveillance operation, but all of them? While this might seem like a technicality, one is innocent until proven guilty, even in traffic court, and unless police can prove it was Vontesmar who donned the mask every single time, it seems he’s got a point. Maybe instead of relying on unrepresented tax collection systems _[speed cameras](http://jalopnik.com/tag/speed-cameras/)_, police should, you know, pull people over and alleviate that burden of proof. [[Pheonix News](http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2009/09/valley_monkey_has_37_unpaid_ph.php)] ---
**Author:** ![tpgsr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tpgsr/32/7374_2.png) [@tpgsr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tpgsr)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/2 "2009-09-09T16:13:14Z")
LOL I am not sure how I would react if I pulled up next to that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/3 "2009-09-09T16:13:26Z")
lolz ---
**Author:** ![psychopjv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psychopjv/32/7251_2.png) [@psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psychopjv)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/4 "2009-09-09T16:14:49Z")
LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/5 "2009-09-09T16:23:44Z")
Awesome. I vote for title change though… Subaru drivers are bananas! ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/6 "2009-09-09T16:30:21Z")
:lol: ---
**Author:** ![Jskrapper](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jskrapper/32/7570_2.png) [@Jskrapper](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jskrapper)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/7 "2009-09-09T16:35:53Z")
> [@tpgsr](#): > > LOL I am not sure how I would react if I pulled up next to that guy. Honestly when I saw the pic only, before I read the article…I thought bank robber w/mask, but in a very distinct car. And read the title as sarcasm. But now its even better after reading. In other words I would probably be suspicious if he pulled up next to me. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/8 "2009-09-09T16:39:54Z")
Lol. thats pretty cool… but 37 times… unreal ---
**Author:** ![fourseasonsandles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@fourseasonsandles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fourseasonsandles)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/9 "2009-09-09T16:44:06Z")
My suby came stock with the mask… ---
**Author:** ![steve2k1116](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/steve2k1116/32/5230_2.png) [@steve2k1116](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/steve2k1116)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/10 "2009-09-09T16:45:42Z")
^lol mine didnt ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BLKS197](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blks197/32/5346_2.png) [@BLKS197](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BLKS197)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/11 "2009-09-09T16:48:23Z")
paging nitroinsane ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/12 "2009-09-09T17:03:33Z")
ballsy to do it in a car thats stickered like that. now if it was a plain jane car he could easily argue that someone has a fake plate on their similar car. so they SAW him do it once, so yea they sorta have a case for that one ticket IF they have pics / vids of him putting the mask on, but the rest he can easily claim he loans the car out alot and the mask is always in the back seat. kinda hard to disprove that story ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/13 "2009-09-09T17:04:30Z")
thats hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![pdubya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@pdubya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pdubya)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/14 "2009-09-09T17:05:01Z")
thats gotta be driving the cops ape-shit ---
**Author:** ![dawn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dawn/32/7209_2.png) [@dawn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dawn)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/15 "2009-09-09T17:27:36Z")
Love it. ---
**Author:** ![burnt\_toast](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/burnt_toast/32/7518_2.png) [@burnt\_toast](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/burnt_toast)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/16 "2009-09-09T17:43:01Z")
![http://mario.neoseeker.com/w/i/mario/9/9c/Mkwii-donkeykong.jpg](http://mario.neoseeker.com/w/i/mario/9/9c/Mkwii-donkeykong.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/17 "2009-09-09T17:51:42Z")
That mask is priceless :lol: ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/18 "2009-09-09T18:03:18Z")
how long before they suspend his license and give him jail time for not paying the fines or was it already dismissed in court? ---
**Author:** ![klug](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/klug/32/5222_2.png) [@klug](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/klug)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/19 "2009-09-09T18:54:51Z")
> [@pdubya](#): > > thats gotta be driving the cops ape-shit NO. BAD. BAD BOY. NO. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287/20 "2009-09-09T19:03:44Z")
wonder how much he’ll have to pay. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-drivers-are-cunning/73287.md?page=2)