# Subaru owners hate UPS too
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [January 20, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577 "2008-01-20T09:03:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/1 "2008-01-20T09:03:46Z")
I was just browsing Toronto Subaru Club and they actually have a thread about UPS sucking at life!
[http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103676](http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103676)
It’s so true, I remember we’ve discussed this here at some point…for me it took being ripped off 10+ times before I realized there was no coincidence, UPS’ brokerage fees (importing from U.S.) will OWN you! As in, 30-70+% of what you paid for your item, AFTER having paid the seller for shipping already.
A couple of mine I remember off the top of my head:
– Nismo mounts $260 “shipped”, UPS duties $87
– Grounding kit $25 “shipped”, UPS duties $20-25
USPS for the win.
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### Author:  [@alesserfate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/alesserfate)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/2 "2008-01-20T12:15:54Z")
–STRI oil press guage $75 “shipped” , UPS Duties 80$
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### Author:  [@robbbby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robbbby)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/3 "2008-01-20T12:36:59Z")
what do subaru owners have to do with hating ups? the hate is a feeling shared by all canadians who have ever ordered something from the states and had ups as a courier.
also just a fyi, as of january 1st their brokerage rates went up like 3percent.
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### Author:  [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/4 "2008-01-20T14:13:13Z")
Holy crap they’re jacking them up more? That’s jokes…this Subaru thread just brought back some memories for me that’s all…and indeed hopefully all Canadians catch on.
Imagine the money they must be raking in, especially considering all the Canadian’s currently and recently cross-border shopping!
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/5 "2008-01-20T16:36:35Z")
just order from me?
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### Author:  [@rex\_thugs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rex_thugs)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/6 "2008-01-20T19:20:18Z")
what i do when i like bid off of ebay or somethign is tell them to send it as like a gift so that way no fee’s i remember i baught a amp and had like 70 dollars of duty fees
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### Author:  [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)
#### Post date: [January 20, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/7 "2008-01-20T19:52:07Z")
Even if its a gift, if they put a large value they will charge you for it. I bought a ES bushing kit a while back and the guy marked it as a gift but didnt put a value, at the border they un packed it and went through the package to value it. They put a value of like $125 on it, put a slip in the box saying it was searched and re wrapped it. Needless to say i had to pay like $60 when it got here.
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### Author:  [@robbbby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/robbbby)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/8 "2008-01-21T03:50:15Z")
> [@Yo Howie!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yo-howie/15549/39):
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> what i do when i like bid off of ebay or somethign is tell them to send it as like a gift so that way no fee’s i remember i baught a amp and had like 70 dollars of duty fees
that does absolutely nothing, you still have to pay taxes/brokerage on it, just like you would pay taxes on gift if you crossed the border with your car.
the only real way is to have them value the package at 20 dollars, but then if it gets damaged or lost you’re screwed. you can also try and having them mark it as ‘warranty replacement’ since they can’t technically charge you tax on something you supposedly already have paid tax on.
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### Author:  [@rex\_thugs](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rex_thugs)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/9 "2008-01-21T12:24:35Z")
i duno i ordered a blitz bov off of ebay the guy marked it as a gift and i didnt pay a single extra fee.
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### Author:  [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/10 "2008-01-21T14:07:50Z")
> [@Alaskan Pipeline Down: Not so good](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/alaskan-pipeline-down-not-so-good/15620/15):
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> i duno i ordered a blitz bov off of ebay the guy marked it as a gift and i didnt pay a single extra fee.
Using UPS for sure, not USPS? Shipped from a U.S. seller for sure?
You might get a bill later from what i’ve heard lol…or maybe you got lucky!
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### Author:  [@simplemind7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/simplemind7)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/11 "2008-01-21T14:51:59Z")
yep, i’ve been screwed over once, never will i use them again.
i bought some suspension for $325 and paid $200 in extra fees. ups can burn in hell.
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### Author:  [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/12 "2008-01-21T15:01:56Z")
Okay, So what can Brown do for you?
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### Author:  [@Fr0z3N](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fr0z3N)
#### Post date: [January 21, 2008, 3:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subaru-owners-hate-ups-too/112577/13 "2008-01-21T15:06:22Z")
I got screwed once for like a $98 brokerage fee, I now never buy anything that is offered shipping by UPS, it must be USPS otherwise I won’t go near