# Subframes

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subframes/98284>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [July 25, 2006, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subframes/98284 "2006-07-25T06:52:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subframes/98284/21 "2006-07-27T14:45:45Z")

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So instead of 4 lines (2 running all the way to the rear subframe) you removed the pump and all the lines, and switched to a 2ws pump…smart IMO. But if you removed the lines going to the back, what is the HICAS stopper bar for at that point?

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**Author:** ![a\_ahmed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/a_ahmed/32/5411_2.png) [@a\_ahmed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/a_ahmed)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subframes/98284/22 "2006-07-27T14:47:31Z")

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to keep the wheels straight… as you are not changing the subframe and well on the hicas cars there are tie rods that would go to the rack… so instead of a rack there is that ‘fake’ rack which is the ‘stopper bar’ (thats a direct replacment fit to the rack position).

Now do you get it?

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**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subframes/98284/23 "2006-07-27T14:54:08Z")

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OH, so what would usually keep the rear wheels straight in a non HICAS subframe (tie rods or whatever) is ebing replaced by this bar that manually keeps the wheels locked straight in a HICAS subframe.

I think i get it, Thanks!

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