# Subie went boom

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [May 24, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338 "2009-05-24T18:30:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/21 "2009-05-25T17:33:01Z")

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> [@What R Some Good Sites For "Listening" To Music??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-r-some-good-sites-for-listening-to-music/18494/3):
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> I guess I’ll get into what happened while I wait for Adam’s suggestions…
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> Took an unplanned trip down to Philly, followed the fiance because the father in-law wanted to go to an autox with me.
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> After the last run of the autox I heard a knocking and immediately diagnosed it as rod knock. I checked the oil and the dip stick was dry, which is a bit ridiculous. its been _maybe_ 4k miles since I changed it, it doesn’t leak or drip at all, and I never have seen the car smoking or smelled oil. I don’t know where the hell it all went. Anyway, I got some oil, filled it up, and tried to limp it back to the in-laws house. I was on the road maybe 15 minutes before it got louder and louder and finally it just lost power and seized up leaving me on the side of the road.
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> ☹

most of those motors have a bad head problem esp with oil leakage ya may not see it as its all over the underside of the car

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/22 "2009-05-25T17:35:47Z")

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I drive down with the fiance following me the whole way, I can’t believe no one saw anything.

not to mention the fact that I just had the valve cover gaskets all replaced.

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**Author:** ![SDP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SDP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SDP)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/23 "2009-05-25T17:37:53Z")

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> [@What R Some Good Sites For "Listening" To Music??](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-r-some-good-sites-for-listening-to-music/18494/3):
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> I checked the oil and the dip stick was dry, which is a bit ridiculous. its been _maybe_ 4k miles since I changed it, it doesn’t leak or drip at all, and I never have seen the car smoking or smelled oil. I don’t know where the hell it all went.

You have to check oil frequently, its not uncommon to have engines burn oil with no noticable leaks or issues.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/24 "2009-05-25T17:41:16Z")

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> [@hmmm... decoding analog cable thru a tuner card?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/hmmm-decoding-analog-cable-thru-a-tuner-card/18491/13):
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> You have to check oil frequently, its not uncommon to have engines burn oil with no noticeable leaks or issues.

apparently. I definitely should have checked it before autox. :banghead

…but whats with the oil light, why wouldn’t that come on.

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**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/25 "2009-05-25T17:44:51Z")

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pressure was prolly there ,just gettin airated esp seein as the way scoobs dist oil at the crank and rods …basically centrifacal forces can and will force oil away from them

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/26 "2009-05-25T19:52:33Z")

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> [@Where can you get a decent philly cheese steak?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/where-can-you-get-a-decent-philly-cheese-steak/18425/21):
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> my car is a '00 so does that mean its definitely a phase 2?
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> If I grab a phase 2 STI block with the complete turbo setup what else would I need? Could I use my sensors or do something else to avoid the serious wiring PITA that people say you need with that swap?

'00 should certainly be a phase 2 motor.

Slapping in just an Ej257 shortblock and expecting to run off the RS ems is going to be a big can of worms you don’t want to get into. It’s piggy back stuff on top of already finiky motors. Realistically if you’re at all planning to turbocharge this car, you need to go with a complete EJ-T swap(engine and EMS/harness) and go from there.

Believe me, it can and has been done successfully, but where cost and time are not such a factor. FWIW, I think it’s going to be just better to build a solid P2 rs motor for the car now until you can do a complete swap.

Prime example…Taylor got fed up of blowing the 30r powered P1 motor with piggy backed EMS and now is just swapping in a complete Ej257(built) with all oem EMS and harness.

There are a nightmare of head/block combinations to work with but you start getting into quench and CR talk that’ll fill up pages of text here.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/subie-went-boom/244338/27 "2009-05-25T19:55:31Z")

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> [@nationstates](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nationstates/18505/2):
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> …but whats with the oil light, why wouldn’t that come on.

Oil light illuminates below 5psi, not low oil level. As stated you’ll cavitate long before pressure drops off, and even before that the oil film will break down due to low volume/flow and the subsequent increased temps.

Dummy lights are shit. Get a real gauge.

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