# Suggestions for Beaverun 2006 drift days

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 27, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460 "2005-11-27T08:29:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/21 "2005-12-04T21:23:38Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> if you have never been at the events why would you have to put any input into this. that makes no sence to me you are putting your 2 cents in and have never been there.  
> i think i set up great coarses but what you dont know is i am made to set up coarses that the masses can do,ask ryan. actually the coarse is skewed tward people with less ability to drift. if it was up to me that coarse would be so hard and fast only a select few could do it.  
> get off the bandwagon on the judge thing cause you have NEVER been there. thanks  
> remember you said "i have never been to these events "  
> thanks for your opinion  
> marc

ok, follow me here… Here is a quote of what I posted.

> [@whitey](#):
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> i concur
> 
> Although i have never been to these events I have heard enough rumours about them to make me not want to attend. From what i heard a person will set up the course skewed for them to perform better. Then they will be in the contest and their friends judge the contest. dunno something goofy about that.

I run a large forum that deals with motorsports in Pgh. Everyone feels the need to tell me everything! I was simply relaying what was told to me about the events. I even stated that they were rumours since I did not experience it first hand. Apparently this struck a nerve with you, I had no clue you set up the courses. If you need me to spell it out anymore for you, shoot me a PM

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**Author:** ![1320](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320/32/5949_2.png) [@1320](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/22 "2005-12-05T14:15:18Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> please answer some of my questions and your questions will be answered following your response. lets not avoid the questions at hand.

You were asked the question first. Aren’t most of the judges your freinds/sponsor? Yes or no?

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/23 "2005-12-06T11:59:28Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> please get a clue sir  
> race line? this is drift thats a whole nother line bro  
> strictfab? what do they have to do with this judging they are the sponsor. they supply the prizes! you do like prizes dont you little buddy?
> 
> please let everyone know why you say its bias? how did you get shafted by dg trials? please enlighten us.  
> do you drift? what do you drive?

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 Bias, you have your friend and sponsor as judges. Dgtrials did not shaft me personally but other people were. Yes I have 2 drift days under my belt. I drift a 97 Nissan 240sx W/ an sr20det vtc.
 As for the race line you are suppose to follow, the true race line not a drift race line. And if you watch Keiichi Tsuchiya(Drift King) or any other pro drifter they follow the race line as if they were in a race.

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**Author:** ![steelersfan513](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@steelersfan513](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/steelersfan513)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/24 "2005-12-06T13:34:49Z")

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i judge car shows ( hot import nights, tuner wars n such) and you make friends with some of the competitors that show up on a regular basis, but that does not make us bias when we judge their car, in actuality some of us are harder on them than the others.  
now you may ask drift…car shows… wtf how can you compare, well you can because you say being friends with a judge makes you a winner… definatly not

being a good driver + good drifting makes you win events, so far rozzo has proven that every event i have been too…

personally i don’t care who knows who, just show up drift, and have fun, isn’t this what it’s about… i dunno thats what i do atleast.

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**Author:** ![Turbo\_Silverado](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbo_silverado/32/5990_2.png) [@Turbo\_Silverado](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Turbo_Silverado)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/25 "2005-12-06T13:37:13Z")

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just racing on through

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/26 "2005-12-06T14:15:39Z")

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> [@whitey](#):
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> ok, follow me here… Here is a quote of what I posted.
> 
> I run a large forum that deals with motorsports in Pgh. Everyone feels the need to tell me everything! I was simply relaying what was told to me about the events. I even stated that they were rumours since I did not experience it first hand. Apparently this struck a nerve with you, I had no clue you set up the courses. If you need me to spell it out anymore for you, shoot me a PM

what the f are you saying! just spell it out already!  
btw you didnt strike a nerve

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/27 "2005-12-06T14:17:09Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> You were asked the question first. Aren’t most of the judges your freinds/sponsor? Yes or no?

no but since you drift you would know that already

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/28 "2005-12-06T14:26:16Z")

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> [@vanillagorilla2](#):
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> Bias, you have your friend and sponsor as judges. Dgtrials did not shaft me personally but other people were. Yes I have 2 drift days under my belt. I drift a 97 Nissan 240sx W/ an sr20det vtc.  
> As for the race line you are suppose to follow, the true race line not a drift race line. And if you watch Keiichi Tsuchiya(Drift King) or any other pro drifter they follow the race line as if they were in a race.

do you realize who the judges were? do some reasearch on it.

ill paste this agai for you  
by Ken Takahashi  
Line: best drift line not race line. Quite commonly on a lot of tracks here in the US there are two different lines. Your qualifying line and competition line. In qualifying line, it’s all about you! You and the battle against the track. To show your true skills on how quick you can adapt your skills as a driver and the ability to bring out the energy the track holds.  
Competition line is not as flamboyant, a little tighter but not to tight, this is a battle against drivers to show who is a better lion tamer. Taming the track bring out the best drift and making it look easy.

are you trying to say hes wrong?  
drift is not a race and i feel you area little confused about drift!  
maybe youd do better if you didnt try to follow the race line!  
jus my 5 cent

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/29 "2005-12-06T14:29:37Z")

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> [@sweetcav201](#):
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> i judge car shows ( hot import nights, tuner wars n such) and you make friends with some of the competitors that show up on a regular basis, but that does not make us bias when we judge their car, in actuality some of us are harder on them than the others.  
> now you may ask drift…car shows… wtf how can you compare, well you can because you say being friends with a judge makes you a winner… definatly not
> 
> being a good driver + good drifting makes you win events, so far rozzo has proven that every event i have been too…
> 
> personally i don’t care who knows who, just show up drift, and have fun, isn’t this what it’s about… i dunno thats what i do atleast.

right on bro!  
its funny how people single me out to talk shit.  
if they put as much into drift as they do talkin noise id have some good competition!

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/30 "2005-12-06T15:04:06Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> no but since you drift you would know that already

I was told that Ish and Ty are judges. True or false? Just trying to get the facts.

And no, I dont drift. I feel that motorsports should be timed events, to prevent such matters.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/31 "2005-12-06T15:44:24Z")

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> [@unicorn](#):
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> I was told that Ish and Ty are judges. True or false? Just trying to get the facts.
> 
> And no, I dont drift. I feel that motorsports should be timed events, to prevent such matters.

FALSE  
so since you were implying things were unfair im gonna explain it or as whitey would say spell it out.  
ty was actually running the start staging line because he had to be there to give his donated prises away  
ryan ish and chris(i think it was his name) were judging  
each judge has a score card and its broke down into different things  
speed style clipping points angle ect  
it is up to each judge to score things based on what he or she saw  
the same goes for qualifying runs  
after everyone is done running the points are added off of each judge sheet and then talleys to see the winner/qualifying order

now i know im no as smart as you but i feel that since everyones score sheet is offered to the competitors after a call is made, this makes everyone that entered to blame if they didnt think i should be where i was in the event.  
i know you never go to these things cause there not timed but it is very obvious who the top 4 are in an event.  
the only hard call seems to be the battle for 1 and 2 in the end of each contest.  
if you ever went you could look at each judges card and see it ends up like being 1 or 2 points seperating first and second. if you feel that people are bias you can take that up with the judges and they will set you straight.

since your so ignorant im gonna explain this one more time so listen up.  
ish lives 20 miles from me and ive only became friends with him since like after winter because he made me some parts. ISH IS FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF DRIFTERS UP THERE NOT JUST ME! he hangs with hoagie ryan and others  
even if you take him outta the picture the other 2 judges still gotta think for themselves and the outcome would have been the same of better.  
if you are questning my ability as a driver, do some research on where i went this summer and how ive done  
for example i qualified 2nd at summit point us drift and i wasnt friends with a judge.  
wagner was there,von gitten jr was there,matt martin,tony shults and the list goes on. how did that happen i dont know the judges  
that was my 2nd or 3rd event in a car that was built in march and i never drove a rwd in drift till march this year. i feel that im doing pretty good considering.  
if you still dont believe my ability,find me someone to battle me and we can settle this you can even video tape it! till then keep it straight and keep an eye on the time,you dont wanna be late!

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/32 "2005-12-06T16:10:50Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> FALSE  
> so since you were implying things were unfair im gonna explain it or as whitey would say spell it out.

I wasnt implying anything. I even said, I heard some things and was just asking for the facts.

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> ty was actually running the start staging line because he had to be there to give his donated prises away

Thats understandable.

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> ryan ish and chris(i think it was his name) were judging  
> each judge has a score card and its broke down into different things  
> speed style clipping points angle ect  
> it is up to each judge to score things based on what he or she saw  
> the same goes for qualifying runs  
> after everyone is done running the points are added off of each judge sheet and then talleys to see the winner/qualifying order

At no point in time did i ask how it was judged, nor do i care.

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> now i know im no as smart as you

Yes, I’d probably agree with that.

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> since your so ignorant im gonna explain this one more time so listen up.  
> ish lives 20 miles from me and ive only became friends with him since like after winter because he made me some parts.

I’m ignorant? I don’t ever recall seeing that explanation on [Pittspeed.com](http://Pittspeed.com). Give me the link to the thread where that was ever posted on here and I’ll apologize! (hint- it wasn’t!)

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> if you are questning my ability as a driver, do some research on where i went this summer and how ive done

I’ve heard, congrats! Go you!!! 💤

> [@gotslicks](#):
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> keep an eye on the time,you dont wanna be late!

Much like getting an 11 second timeslip, I guess its better late than…never?

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/33 "2005-12-06T16:25:58Z")

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Much like getting an 11 second timeslip, I guess its better late than…never?[/QUOTE]

I love drag racing. if you want to go faster just spend more money. When I hit the lottery I’m buying a top fuel funny car so I can run 4’s. I don’t have the skill to run 3’s.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/34 "2005-12-06T17:09:32Z")

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Any sport/hobbie being timed is lame.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/35 "2005-12-06T19:10:14Z")

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I hang out with ish??? HOAGIE

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/36 "2005-12-07T04:47:45Z")

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just Drifting through!

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/37 "2005-12-07T11:02:45Z")

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> [@hoagie master](#):
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> I hang out with ish??? HOAGIE

uhhhhhhhhhhh? for starters, didnt me you and ish go to ohio to drift one weekend? i could be wrong, lol

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**Post date:** [December 7, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/38 "2005-12-07T19:59:53Z")

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> [@gotslicks](#):
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> uhhhhhhhhhhh? for starters, didnt me you and ish go to ohio to drift one weekend? i could be wrong, lol

WTF  
YEAH THIS IS TRUE. BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVER MET ISH AND HE CAME WITH YOU. WHAT OTHER TIME DID I EVER HANGOUT WITH HIM? LOLX10

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**Post date:** [December 8, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/39 "2005-12-08T18:53:24Z")

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Wow these are all great suggestions.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2005, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-beaverun-2006-drift-days/178460/40 "2005-12-09T15:55:38Z")

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Smell my finger.

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