# Super Hicas vs Base Model? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [April 29, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082 "2008-04-29T12:42:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drjeffreys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@drjeffreys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drjeffreys)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/1 "2008-04-29T12:42:19Z")
I understand with the super hicas model came… 4 way steering… and an upgraded diff? what is the diff like in the base models a.k.a non super hicas? Also was the base model the only model that came without a sunroof? any other differences in the base model compared to se le bla bla bla thanks ---
**Author:** ![XSNRGE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xsnrge/32/5565_2.png) [@XSNRGE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XSNRGE)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/2 "2008-04-29T12:59:27Z")
I’ve got a '90 base model. Its got a manual sunroof, but no LSD. I believe 1991+ models came with VLSDs standard. As for the sunroof query, thats all I know… ---
**Author:** ![drjeffreys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@drjeffreys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drjeffreys)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/3 "2008-04-29T13:11:26Z")
from what ive rear the vlsd was only in the super hicas models? ---
**Author:** ![kollo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kollo/32/5661_2.png) [@kollo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kollo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/4 "2008-04-29T13:13:45Z")
^ no vlsd are 91+ then its open diff in the prior super hicas cars ---
**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/5 "2008-04-29T13:22:19Z")
89-90 open diff 91+ CANADIAN CARS vlsd base model (FTW) no sunroof no power anything usually automatic lighter more rigid no a/c ---
**Author:** ![drjeffreys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9c0ed/32.png) [@drjeffreys](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drjeffreys)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/6 "2008-04-29T13:22:56Z")
alright… thanks. ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/7 "2008-04-29T20:51:23Z")
More rigid? How si the base model more rigid? ---
**Author:** ![Cal-SoY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Cal-SoY](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cal-SoY)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/8 "2008-04-29T21:03:20Z")
No sunroof, there’s a metal support bar instead that runs through where the sunroof would be. ---
**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/9 "2008-04-29T21:04:54Z")
metal vs. glass… hrmm. ---
**Author:** ![logik23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/logik23/32/5548_2.png) [@logik23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/logik23)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/10 "2008-04-29T21:26:20Z")
aahh touche even though chicks dig sunroofs, power windows and A/C and: dick stiffness \> chassis stiffness ---
**Author:** ![sidewayz240](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@sidewayz240](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sidewayz240)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/11 "2008-04-29T21:39:49Z")
Uhg I hate this no sunroof rigidy shiet. Is a non sunroof car more rigid? quite possibly yes, is it AT ALL noticable? No. There is full reinforcment around the sunroof bacing the whole area, nevermind the fact that were talking about the ROOF of a car. How much stress do you really think is put on the roof of a car during turn in? being so high up above the CG its not put under the same load as other areas of the car. Meh. ---
**Author:** ![Osad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3ab097/32.png) [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/12 "2008-04-29T23:08:09Z")
LOLLLLL Dick stiffness vs chassis stiffness. The age old question… ---
**Author:** ![DJPyro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@DJPyro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DJPyro)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/13 "2008-04-30T06:34:41Z")
> [@FS:yamaha r6. on ebay.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-yamaha-r6-on-ebay/16821/4): > > LOLLLLL > > Dick stiffness vs chassis stiffness. The age old question… It’s only a _question_ for you Dan. Everyone who gets chicks knows the answer already. ---
**Author:** ![snowboard\_240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/snowboard_240sx/32/5519_2.png) [@snowboard\_240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowboard_240sx)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-hicas-vs-base-model/115082/14 "2008-04-30T06:54:34Z")
91+ canadian cars all came with vlsd its the american cars that did not, and was only available on the super hicas model Roof stiffness? how much more stiff could it make it? considering that ur front windshield is more load bearing than ur sunroof could ever be. Maybe you should get a car without a front windshield too? u could just go backwards.