# (Super Noob Question) Sr in the winter? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [July 24, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916 "2007-07-24T01:05:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RED\_LINE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/red_line/32/5656_2.png) [@RED\_LINE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RED_LINE)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/21 "2007-07-24T18:47:42Z")
As 240 owners, I find if you want a VLSD it isn’t hard to find, neither does it seem too pricey. I’ll pick one up soon once I got other things in check. ---
**Author:** ![darkside240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/darkside240sx/32/5649_2.png) [@darkside240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/darkside240sx)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/22 "2007-07-24T19:05:02Z")
> [@FS: Track day, $50!!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-track-day-50/13319/33): > > the car feels like a soggy bag of dog shit without it. > > I drove my 89 for maybe 3 weeks in the winter before I was desperately begging for hoist time to install my VLSD. > > Open diff I found too unpredictable and scary to have fun with. thats crazy!!! I’ve gone two winter on an open diff, i loved it!!! i had allot of fun and never once hit anything. my glory moments are probably drifting an outside skating rink(it was in a figure 8 and the ice was only as wide as a single lane, maybe more) @ 4am. light pole’s in parking lots, going around and around them about a ft away, big ass snow pile’s i kept a drift for 6 laps around that bitch till it straighten out and i lost the drift, but it was awesome!!(this is all winter drifting and wet pavement, NO DRY) I’ve had allot of fun with it, learned how to control it and it works fine. you can’t go any were to fast in the winter tho when there is allot of snow. you need both tires to spin, which is kinda y i want a vlsd, and to get better start when “red light racing”, of course to learn some drifting the right way, i mean the pro’s don’t use an open diff!! i think i got the idea and most of it down, I’m interested in trying it with a vlsd. I’m gonna make it my winter hobby, Learn to drift Vol 2!! ---
**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/23 "2007-07-24T20:32:29Z")
> [@FS: Gateway Laptop](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-gateway-laptop/13367/7): > > Dan (u2ndyno) drove his 400whp S14 through a winter a year or two ago. With a KAAZ 2-way…weehoo ---
**Author:** ![CoolioG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cooliog/32/5322_2.png) [@CoolioG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CoolioG)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2007, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/24 "2007-07-24T22:42:14Z")
how about no abs, im gonna go threw my first winter with a 240 and it seems pretty easy for me to lock up. Upgrading my brakes this week to 180sx with hawk pads and installing a vlsd. Think ill be okay. ---
**Author:** ![Fobwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Fobwall](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fobwall)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/25 "2007-07-25T06:52:05Z")
> [@Pic of my new car ..Snky](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-of-my-new-car-snky/12378/52): > > how about no abs, im gonna go threw my first winter with a 240 and it seems pretty easy for me to lock up. Upgrading my brakes this week to 180sx with hawk pads and installing a vlsd. Think ill be okay. I had ABS on my first 240 and I winter drove it. Anyways, it felt a lot better when I disabled ABS, I could actually stop faster/moreconfident than with ABS. ABS just feels weird in the winter. ---
**Author:** ![darkside240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/darkside240sx/32/5649_2.png) [@darkside240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/darkside240sx)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/26 "2007-07-25T07:23:27Z")
abs is for ppl that have no confidence in their driving, same with traction control. you don’t need any of that if you know what you are doing. i tried to drift with a 06 charger on gravel, even with the traction control turned “off” it was still on, the front tires started braking to bring the ass end back into line, and power was getting cut to the wheels. all turning that traction control “off” does is let you churp the tires from a stand still. 3.5 ho not the hemi! if you had the hemi it might be different. the 300c is the same way. rentals are fun to abuse!! ---
**Author:** ![S13GG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s13gg/32/5506_2.png) [@S13GG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/S13GG)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/27 "2007-07-25T08:30:51Z")
> [@Pic of my new car ..Snky](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/pic-of-my-new-car-snky/12378/52): > > how about no abs, im gonna go threw my first winter with a 240 and it seems pretty easy for me to lock up. Upgrading my brakes this week to 180sx with hawk pads and installing a vlsd. Think ill be okay. better tires = better traction. toyo observe G02’s FTW ---
**Author:** ![Singh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@Singh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Singh)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/28 "2007-07-25T11:55:44Z")
my vlsd was sick when i was drifting in the dry, in the snow it was good too, i had shyt tires this pass winter yet suprisingly i was still able to find traction at the lights on the really snowy days. ---
**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/29 "2007-07-25T13:38:51Z")
In my experience, weight in the rear (much to my surprise) actually helped things a lot. Not only easier traction from a stop, but if things got a little loose, the tires would re-hookup faster. Just don’t do anything too silly, because THEN it can be a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Timzi\_27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Timzi\_27](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Timzi_27)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/30 "2007-07-25T15:24:12Z")
Honestly dude, aslong as you learn the bounderies of your car in the snow you will be fine. Last year I drove my gutted 92’ Coupe with a Sr. I was also lowered and had bald summer tires on the back. Sure the car was ass-cold cause of my Koyo Rad the best heat I could get was semi-warm, and sure everytime I got in my car I had to scrape the outside of my windsheild and the inside lol, but I made it no problem. One trick I learned near the end of winter was that If you block off your Koyo rad (if you have one) with a big peice of cardboard you will get “warmer” air and your temp wont drop from 1/2 way to the bottom as soon as you start driving. I was a little worried aswell, I wouldn’t do it again but remember I was pretty much “worst case scenerio”, I’m sure with good winter tires you’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![nautica\_t](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/db5fbb/32.png) [@nautica\_t](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nautica_t)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/31 "2007-07-25T17:43:14Z")
are there huge differences between a welded diff vs a vlsd? ---
**Author:** ![darkside240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/darkside240sx/32/5649_2.png) [@darkside240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/darkside240sx)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2007, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916/32 "2007-07-26T17:47:38Z")
> [@Anyone ever had this?When I sneeze feels like I'm being stabbed in the side near belt](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-ever-had-this-when-i-sneeze-feels-like-im-being-stabbed-in-the-side-near-belt/13416/2): > > In my experience, weight in the rear (much to my surprise) actually helped things a lot. > > Not only easier traction from a stop, but if things got a little loose, the tires would re-hookup faster. Just don’t do anything too silly, because THEN it can be a bad thing. i agree!!! welding diff from what i hear isn’t good, cause’s wheel hop when turning, vlsd will grip at a certain amount of torque applied to the rear. i don’t know numbers. I’m sure someone else will be able to give u a better comparison and more reasons not to do it! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-noob-question-sr-in-the-winter/107916.md?page=1)