# Super Snake ROAD & TRACK

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [October 30, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387 "2007-10-30T18:46:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/1 "2007-10-30T18:46:00Z")

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Not sure if this one was posted.  
[http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/11-01-07page-2008-Shelby-GT500-Super-Snake.htm](http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos/11-01-07page-2008-Shelby-GT500-Super-Snake.htm)

Looks badass in Orange

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/2 "2007-10-30T19:32:47Z")

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Looks pretty good to me. Now i’ll be waiting for the race vids of the first zr1 vs gt500shelby owners

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/3 "2007-10-30T19:37:39Z")

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Found the other video

> [@fs 2000 camaro ss](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-camaro-ss/32934/9):
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> SS = Super Snake. 600 HP with a warranty, 725 HP option… no warranty available. One bad lookin’ MoFo.
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> Ford Racing and Team Shelby developed the GT500 Super Snake package which will include:
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> • Ford Racing Supercharger upgrade kit (SuperPack 600) producing over 600 horsepower and 590 ft.-lbs. of torque
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> • 6-speed manual transmission with 3.73:1 rear axle ratio
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> • Ford Racing performance exhaust system
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> • Ford Racing Handling Pack offering unique performance suspension tuning including Dynamic adjustable dampers, lowering springs, tuned stabilizer bars, and front strut tower brace
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> • Shelby-designed Alcoa 20-inch wheels
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> • Ford Racing short-throw shifter
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> • Baer 6 piston brakes with Shelby cast calipers and larger rotors
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> • Front brake cooling ducts
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> • Unique carbon composite hood featuring classic Shelby design
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> • ‘Shelby’ lettering across the front edge of hood and rear decklid
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> • ‘Super Snake’ vehicle badging
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> • Carroll Shelby signature embroidered headrests, floor mats and other Shelby designed components
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> • Official Shelby CSM dash plate
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> In addition, while the full Super Snake package will be available exclusively through Shelby Automobiles, many of the products comprising the Super Snake package will be available from Shelby Automobiles and Ford Racing starting in June.
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> A Good look:  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YKp92C\_URw](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YKp92C_URw)
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> Tires burning:  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgnRwva6IA&mode=related&search=](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgnRwva6IA&mode=related&search=)

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/4 "2007-10-31T05:55:11Z")

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so nice

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/5 "2007-10-31T13:55:15Z")

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One of the sickest looking factory vehicles ever. What I would do for that car.

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**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/6 "2007-10-31T15:40:51Z")

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> [@FS 8ft pool table-pic up!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-8ft-pool-table-pic-up/29779/26):
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> One of the sickest looking factory vehicles ever. What I would do for that car.

Bang a black dude with burnyd pushing ?

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/7 "2007-10-31T16:14:29Z")

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🤣

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/8 "2007-10-31T17:16:04Z")

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> [@What did you wear to work today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-did-you-wear-to-work-today/14797/70):
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> Bang a black dude with burnyd pushing ?

Well, no. I have a greater chance of hitting the lottery than that ever letting myself go that low. Haha

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/9 "2007-10-31T17:22:33Z")

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The GT500 has proven to be a terrible car for anything other than drag racing, this will be no different. The GT500 track day guys have to stop just a few minutes into sessions to let things cool down. At least the SS has better brakes, but really there’s only so much you can do about a **Huuuuuuuuuuuuge HP** car that is also **waaay overweight**.

If I was going to have any Mudstain it’d be more like:  
[http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1847246](http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1847246)

-TJ

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**Author:** ![BlkP42E](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blkp42e/32/5938_2.png) [@BlkP42E](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlkP42E)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/10 "2007-10-31T17:29:44Z")

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oh man that thing is sweet

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/11 "2007-10-31T22:07:30Z")

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> [@20th ae gti \> BMW 530i sport](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20th-ae-gti-bmw-530i-sport/33257/31):
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> **Huuuuuuuuuuuuge HP** car that is also **waaay overweight**.

Carrying on the tradition of American Muscle. I can dig it.

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/12 "2007-11-01T05:46:18Z")

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> [@can you escape the room?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-you-escape-the-room/33276/9):
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> Carrying on the tradition of American Muscle. I can dig it.

…and this is why it can’t keep up with ford or chevy’s super car(gt and z06)

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**Author:** ![Zack01GC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a183cd/32.png) [@Zack01GC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Zack01GC)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 6:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/13 "2007-11-01T06:05:47Z")

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Comparing a GT to Mustang-derived GT500 is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s like comparing a Saleen S-281 Mustang to the Saleen S7. Two different types of cars, designed for two different markets.

GT500 and Z06… I can see that being a valid point. But the Super Snake versions may just hold a candle to a Z06 Stock for Stock in the 1/4 mile. They needed the extra 100-225 extra HP models for that.

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**Author:** ![xlogic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/59ef9b/32.png) [@xlogic](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/xlogic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/14 "2007-11-01T13:17:27Z")

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> [@Call out Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-out-choda/30743/90):
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> Comparing a GT to Mustang-derived GT500 is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s like comparing a Saleen S-281 Mustang to the Saleen S7. Two different types of cars, designed for two different markets.
> 
> GT500 and Z06… I can see that being a valid point. But the Super Snake versions may just hold a candle to a Z06 Stock for Stock in the 1/4 mile. They needed the extra 100-225 extra HP models for that.

In my opinion the Z06 is in a league above the mustang, notice when they do “supercar” comparisons it’s always a Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, Z06, And MAYBE a GT. The mustang simply can’t compete with cars like that, sure there are some people who make their mustangs bad ass and can actually not get ass raped by a stock Z06 or gallardo, the mustangs competition would be trans am ws6’s, the new camaro and other cars of the like. This isn’t Supercar talk though, just a pretty nice looking, ridiculously overweight, Mustang package

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**Author:** ![Orr89rocz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac91a4/32.png) [@Orr89rocz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Orr89rocz)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/15 "2007-11-01T13:25:07Z")

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most new cars are gettin heavy these days…GTO, new G8 concept, Charger, challenger concept, magnum wagon, 300M hemi, all those are heavy cars.

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**Author:** ![69camaro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/69camaro/32/6046_2.png) [@69camaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/69camaro)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/16 "2007-11-01T14:28:11Z")

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who would pay 70k for a mustang?

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/17 "2007-11-01T16:42:19Z")

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> [@WTF: v. post your best HOFF Pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf-v-post-your-best-hoff-pics/33254/27):
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> who would pay 70k for a mustang?

:dunno:

probably the same ones that would pay +70K for a corvette.

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/18 "2007-11-01T17:05:54Z")

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> [@can you escape the room?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/can-you-escape-the-room/33276/9):
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> Carrying on the tradition of American Muscle. I can dig it.

Yeah, in that respect I guess. Though it’s still 500-1000lbs heavier than muscle car era Mustangs.

> [@Call out Choda](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-out-choda/30743/90):
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> Comparing a GT to Mustang-derived GT500 is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s like comparing a Saleen S-281 Mustang to the Saleen S7. Two different types of cars, designed for two different markets.
> 
> GT500 and Z06… I can see that being a valid point. But the Super Snake versions may just hold a candle to a Z06 Stock for Stock in the 1/4 mile. They needed the extra 100-225 extra HP models for that.

If all you want to do is run 1/4 mile w/ a stock Z06 and you are a Mustang guy, buy a 5.0 for $5,000, spend a few K in bolt ons and N20, and there ya go. Comparing C6Z drag times to anything is retarded. The C6Z is **NOT** a drag car and who cares what can run w/ it in the 1/4.

> [@WTF: v. post your best HOFF Pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf-v-post-your-best-hoff-pics/33254/27):
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> who would pay 70k for a mustang?

> [@Guys with Motorcycles Check in!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/guys-with-motorcycles-check-in/33247/12):
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> :dunno:
> 
> probably the same ones that would pay +70K for a corvette.

Probably _NOT_. Spending $70k+ for a 'vette gets you a C6Z which is an amazing track car. When I say track I mean road course, not drag strip. Though they hold their own on the strip too. You also get a really nice car in all respects. I don’t care what Top Gears says, they ride very very well considering the handling limits, they are fast, fun etc. Nobody buying a C6Z would want a Super Snake. The weight alone makes it a liability on the track. There have been tons of GT500 “incidents” on road courses because they are just too pig heavy even for their brakes (which are pretty damn good) yet have the HP to get them going way too fast for their own good.

Here’s how it likes to end:

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>
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(watch vid then scroll)

In the Mustang’s defense this incident was pretty much all driver error, but the problem was certainly compounded by the car. The driver was way late on turn-in, and tried to save it with a hard yank on the wheel. He should have swallowed his pride and went off-track straight-on to the outside of the turn instead of trying to be a hero. But the extreme weight of the car, combined with small tire fitment, soft/top heavy nature etc. all combined to make him pay big time for his mistake. That and too much HP/not enough brakes letting him get that late into the turn in the first place.

-TJ

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**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/19 "2007-11-01T17:15:55Z")

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there are a lot of people that could care less about the track differences of the vette to the mustang. The mustang has a great history(along with the vette) and a lot of people like it just because it’s a mustang.

Personally, I would rather have a 600hp mustang than a 600hp vette any day of the week, I do not like corvette’s.

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**Author:** ![tjZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tjZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tjZ28)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/super-snake-road-track/193387/20 "2007-11-01T17:36:46Z")

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> [@need NO2 foggers (4)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-no2-foggers-4/33136/13):
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> there are a lot of people that could care less about the track differences of the vette to the mustang. The mustang has a great history(along with the vette) and a lot of people like it just because it’s a mustang.
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> Personally, I would rather have a 600hp mustang than a 600hp vette any day of the week, I do not like corvette’s.

So I guess the answer to “who’d pay $70k for a Mustang!?!” is YOU. Hehe.

Seriously though, you hit it on the head: the only ppl that will pay that for a Mustang are ppl that are die-hard 'stang fans and simply must have the “best” Mustang money can buy. Most ppl w/ $70k to spend on a car simply have more refined taste and expect a lot more (in terms of performance, luxury, curb appeal, quality etc) out of a car.

-TJ

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