# Supercar vs. Hypercar **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [February 27, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408 "2014-02-27T17:54:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/1 "2014-02-27T17:54:48Z")
How would you define one vs. the other? your thoughts? i would put the P1 & 918 in the hypercar territory most ferrari’s and lambo’s in supercar category 911 GT3 at the top of the sports car category ---
**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/2 "2014-02-27T18:10:18Z")
I agree with your categorization. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/3 "2014-02-28T07:51:03Z")
agree with them that the gallardo isnt a supercar… the Ferrari 360 isnt, nor the F430 but i would put the 458 in supercar territory. for hypercar, the argument is pretty good where in order to be a hyper car the guys who made it have to be chasing an ideal and pushing conventional boundaries for technology, physics, luxury, performance etc. P1, Veyron, Pagani, Koenigsegg go there. Also, the low volume of production and the fact that you have to ‘know someone’ to even be able to buy them is good criteria as well. Scarcity and exclusivity are certainly factors. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 6:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/4 "2014-03-02T06:41:47Z")
Super and Hyper are so yesterday’s news: > **[MotorTrend: New Cars - Car News and Expert Reviews](https://www.motortrend.com/)** > > Trust MotorTrend for the best car reviews, news, car rankings, and much more. With more than 70 years of experience, we're your home for everything automotive. > [@motortrend](#): > > Koenigsegg is celebrating its 20th anniversary in a mega way. The Swedish supercar maker has revealed more details about the Koenigsegg Agera One:1. **The world’s first “megacar” gets its name from its 1 metric horsepower per 1 kilogram power-to-weight ratio, and creates a new supercar sub-genre as the first production car to make 1 megawatt of power.** ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/5 "2014-03-02T06:44:38Z")
yeah i saw that. It’s just a hopped up Agera though isnt it? ---
**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/6 "2014-03-02T07:42:21Z")
Why do you think the 458 is a super car, but the 430 it replaced wasn’t? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/7 "2014-03-02T12:35:06Z")
for no reason in particular 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/8 "2014-03-02T12:41:10Z")
so you asked how to define, but instead categorized. It’s simple for me. Supercar - Money is no object with priority on luxury and aesthetics Hypercar - Money is no object with priority on technology and performance ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/9 "2014-03-02T13:00:33Z")
Supercar - tiny dick. Hypercar - tiny dick, more exclusive. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/10 "2014-03-02T14:00:56Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > so you asked how to define, but instead categorized. > > It’s simply for me. > > Supercar - Money is no object with priority on luxury and aesthetics > > Hypercar - Money is no object with priority on technology and performance you can’t exclude performance from supercar categorization. hypercars are certainly a game of superlatives and that includes luxury and aesthetics. Pagani and Bugatti would be higher on luxury and aesthetics than a P1 but would still be hypercars imho. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/11 "2014-03-02T14:04:32Z")
you can’t exclude performance or luxury from either since money is no object… but you can certainly see the difference of priority between something like a Lambo aventador and a Mclaren P1. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/12 "2014-03-02T14:13:42Z")
agreed; but the Aventador has every bit the presence that the P1 has… perhaps more so to the average person. it’s also 1/3 the price. aventador probably goes into supercar category… not hyper car. and that latest Lambo monstrosity goes into a category of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/13 "2014-03-02T15:15:03Z")
I try to keep money out of the debate between the two because it just clouds things and is not a good measure since a lot of the price is branding. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/supercar-vs-hypercar/268408/14 "2014-03-02T15:31:05Z")
i’d agree with that to a degree. when the car has direct competitors the price needs to be reasonable. when the car gets into the stratosphere and there wont even be enough made or the clients have more money than they know what to do with the price disassociated itself from logic… any production car over a $1M is like that.