# Suspension and wheel setup, help.

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**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [April 26, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suspension-and-wheel-setup-help/105962 "2007-04-26T17:02:25Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suspension-and-wheel-setup-help/105962/39 "2007-04-29T11:00:55Z")

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> [@Oh snap, fun rice. (TerCelica styles)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/oh-snap-fun-rice-tercelica-styles/12348/6):
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> So your looking for actual well fitting wheels and not Jdm tyte flushness, good choice :). Like I said in my previous post a 16 or 17x8 with an offset of around the +30 mark is a well fitting wheel when run wih proper sized tires. For an example theres a set of wheels in the for sale section right now, the keiichi tsuchiya Modex wheels. They have very decent sizing and look good on the car with proper rubber.
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> a 235 on an 8" wheel is a good fit, but if you were to run that on a 7" it would be ballooned pretty bad, I woldnt run more then a 225 on a 7" (Imho)
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> The disadvantages of bolt on spacers are mainly the cost, at $150 - $200 a pair your could save that monay and put it into the wheels you actually want and not waste it trying to make wheels you settled for look good. It’s also possible that they do put extra stress on the studs as the wheel and mounting surface sits much farther out from hub then it would regularly. And of course its one more thing to have the chance of coming loose.

I want to respond to this…

To add to the last paragraph about spacers. Adding spacers, adds unsprung weight which results in less efficient acceleration, heavier and less responsive handling, worse dampening and greater discomfort and harshness in ride quality. Spacers end up being a quick fix and a long-term waste of money, I’ve never seen as much of a car community abusing spacers as much as s-chassis owners.

Also try these net calcs although it is just theoretical, in practice the tire width and profile affect the fitments too.

[http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp](http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp)  
[http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html](http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html)

17" wider tire sizes are readily available up to 255, up above that you get availability issues (eg; me considering 275/40/17 tires).

To run a 18" rim you would have to run a 35 profile or even (depending on width of tire) a 30 profile tire… to stay within standard tire diameter sizes, and it does look descent it’s been done properly on Japanese tuned cars, but it is not recommended, japan has glass smooth roads, compared to the garbage we have in Canada. Also what comes to my mind when 18" rims are mentioned for an s13 or even s14 is chrome bling bling rims with ugly spinners or something like that… and of course very crappy high offsets… in other words, think about that.

Go with a 5 lug conversion as well, it’ll benefit you long term. I currently run skyline gts rims, but I will probably switch to some lightweight 17x9 +10 rims in the near coming future to run a 255/40/17 setup. Another question to ask yourself is whether to run a staggered or non-staggered setup. Depending on your goals and intentions think before you make a decision but don’t waste money on spacers.

My father has a 225/50/16 tire fitted to his Taurus 6" rims, and well it runs, and grips well, but it looks like a crazy setup.

People emphasize too much about stretching tires especially da dorifto crowd. All stretching does is preload the tire, so that the sidewall becomes very very stiff as we do not run race tires. so although someone says it’s impossible, it doesn’t mean it’s not.

Check these out:

17X8 275/40/17

![http://www.subrew.com/tmp/sti1.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/d/a/da42fc6081c90703fa3304653cc816f623b7b1b8.jpeg)  
 ![http://www.subrew.com/tmp/sti2.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/6/1679df7c0187e9eafd20abd4cc11c782fca61ea9.jpeg)

 ![http://www.subrew.com/tmp/sti3.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/3/1362680fc8c7cbcd84d03afeb3b951b071a97676.jpeg)

That’s almost what my father’s taurus now looks like lol. So you can tell how bulged the tires are.

Being ‘flush’ or having a stretched tire, or staggered setup that people in the s chassis community encourage, may not actually be the best setup for the car’s actual handling. It may contribute to ‘the look’, but it may not be such a good idea. Rethink your ways

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