# Swaiknow's DC4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [March 26, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183 "2008-03-26T07:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/221 "2008-09-11T17:45:17Z")
> [@cazwrx187](#): > > Mad JDM yo. :banana > Better have some power to back that front end up. :nod B18c5 anyone :mwahaha ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/222 "2008-09-11T17:57:35Z")
what a complete waste of money. ^ you can build a b20vtec for less than half the price and make way more power. :nuts :nuts :nuts :nuts :nuts :nuts :nuts ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/223 "2008-09-11T18:00:09Z")
Myself I would stay away from b20vtec. Thats just me…I know most people do it…myself Id do up a JDMb18c SIR-G :nod ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/224 "2008-09-11T18:03:11Z")
why would you stay away from it? how does lower cost/higher horsepower/equal reliability sound like a bad thing? :haha ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/225 "2008-09-11T18:05:48Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > why would you stay away from it? how does lower cost/higher horsepower/equal reliability sound like a bad thing? :haha Doesn’t. Just not my personal choice. Thats all :nod ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/226 "2008-09-11T18:10:07Z")
well i dont mean to step on anyones toes here but your personal choice is downright silly. why would anyone ever choose to pay more for less??? not not even logical. thats like saying man i could have a 1000 pounds of gold for 1 million bucks or i could have 1 pound of gold for a billion bucks. i think ill take the 1 pound of gold. YOU WOULD GET SLAPPED! lol some people just make no sense at all. :nuts :confused :crackup ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/227 "2008-09-11T18:11:09Z")
Here’s a question, why do you need to build/swap your motor when you are putting on a new front end? I didn’t know that a new bumper required power to “back it up”. ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/228 "2008-09-11T18:16:35Z")
right…lol its like ohhh you putting lip on that thing? you better be packin like 600hp or else man. OR ELSE! lol its almost like a threat. YOU’D BETTER BE!. i could put a type r front on my car, convert it to rhd, do a full carbon dash, buy every spoon part i can possibly waste my money on, buy 4000$ baller as carbon/kevlar wheels that weight 2 pounds, have electrical gadget known to man, have like recaro underpants. and still rock a single cam non vtec carbbed d-series swap, with like 8:1 comp, and the shittiest cam ever. ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/229 "2008-09-11T18:19:33Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > well i dont mean to step on anyones toes here but your personal choice is downright silly. why would anyone ever choose to pay more for less??? not not even logical. thats like saying man i could have a 1000 pounds of gold for 1 million bucks or i could have 1 pound of gold for a billion bucks. i think ill take the 1 pound of gold. YOU WOULD GET SLAPPED! lol some people just make no sense at all. :nuts :confused :crackup b20’s from what I have read on g2ic just isn’t that reliable… ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/230 "2008-09-11T18:21:40Z")
> [@db2 gs-r](#): > > b20’s from what I have read on g2ic just isn’t that reliable… It just has to be built right, look at Paul’s EF from Synapse. Extremely mild block and near stock GS-R head, 12.4@109 IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/231 "2008-09-11T18:22:57Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > It just has to be built right, look at Paul’s EF from Synapse. Extremely mild block and near stock GS-R head, 12.4@109 IIRC. Im not dissing b20’s at all. There have been some good set ups with b20’s but in the long run I would rather do a JDM b18c sir-g or a LS/Vtec ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/232 "2008-09-11T18:28:11Z")
that was his old setup. but his motor is extremely simple. and all stock parts with the exception of arp studs/harware, and golden eagle kit. hes also got supertech valves/ retainers/ springs. other than that its super simple. just dont a be a big goober and learn how to build a motor. everyone on g2ic is a goober first off. lol. secondly dont just listen to what you read on forums. half of it is garbage anyway. a b20vtec is extremely simple if done right its super reliable as well. you have to basically not be an idiot, and itll be fine. my build is simple. b20b block b16a head supertech valves/springs/retainers/guides skunk2 pro2 cams golden eagle kit gsr oil pump gsr headbolts ls rods with arp hardware gsr waterpump neptune s1 tranny act flywheel/clutch planning on making 225 and hoping on making 235 whp. for just about 2 grand. this is why your duh duh duh DUH! :stfu ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/233 "2008-09-11T18:29:30Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > that was his old setup. yeah I’ve talked to him a few times, his new set up is bound to be insane ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/234 "2008-09-11T18:31:16Z")
no its still basically simple. its just done right. also i forgot to mention my b20r rsmachines pistons lol and acl bearings ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/235 "2008-09-11T18:31:20Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > this is why your duh duh duh DUH! :stfu :confused :confused ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/236 "2008-09-11T18:32:14Z")
like going through gears like a noob 1… 2… 3… 4? no 2nd omg im DUH! ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/237 "2008-09-11T18:34:11Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > no its still basically simple. its just done right. also i forgot to mention my b20r rsmachines pistons lol and acl bearings I know it’s simple, I meant insane for what it is :cool ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/238 "2008-09-11T18:34:35Z")
> [@TougeThisDB1?!?](#): > > like going through gears like a noob > > 1… > 2… > 3… > 4? no 2nd omg im DUH! lol thats something new…myself even though I drive a N/A i am not a N/A guy so I’m just going to stick with my B17a1 :lol ---
**Author:** ![tougethisDB1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tougethisdb1/32/6358_2.png) [@tougethisDB1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tougethisDB1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/239 "2008-09-11T18:35:34Z")
oh it definately is. lol. you need to ride in it lol. and hes on stock itr intake cam nad stock gsr cam. a set of skunk2 pro2’s would be like omg lol hes 13:1 compression too lol. ---
**Author:** ![DB2\_GS-R](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DB2\_GS-R](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DB2_GS-R)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/240 "2008-09-11T18:36:58Z")
so, back on topic ;D cant wait to see this done :giggedy [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183.md?page=13)