# Swaiknow's DC4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [March 26, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183 "2008-03-26T07:21:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/121 "2008-05-28T14:12:28Z")
K20s are not econamical yet. Give them another 10 years and they will be your next B series. Until then, stick with what makes sence. If your head is fubar, put a vtec head on there. Specifically, get one of these, wait for production to start if you have to. [http://theoldone.com/articles/Diesel\_Head/index.htm](http://theoldone.com/articles/Diesel_Head/index.htm) Go to [theoldone.com](http://theoldone.com) for their contact information. ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/122 "2008-05-28T14:14:26Z")
THaTs wHy I suggesTed b18C1, THaTs, a CHeap moTor To Come by, and will be super easy To swap ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/123 "2008-05-28T14:17:34Z")
yeah…i dunno i gotta get the timing belt tomorrow then compression test it then we will see from there… ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/124 "2008-05-28T14:20:21Z")
> [@Hooked on BMW](#): > > THaTs wHy I suggesTed b18C1, THaTs, a CHeap moTor To Come by, and will be super easy To swap A head is cheaper than a whole motor. ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/125 "2008-05-28T14:22:27Z")
> [@Hooked on BB1](#): > > A head is cheaper than a whole motor. true…but honestly if i have to do n e thing i think i might just get new pistons, valves, cams, and shit for the B18B and fuck around with that… ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/126 "2008-05-28T14:30:28Z")
Talking $$$ there. NA b18bs can be torquey little fuckers if you do em right tho. BTW, that link I posted is about a production head that is cast to OEM quality, but comes semi ported out of the box. You can get them pre-machined for LSVtec applications. A bare head is supposed to be around $500 and a complete head around $900. IDK bout you, but a complete NEW head for $900 is a fucking steal. > A year ago we were approached by a company (DHP) that was manufacturing an all-aftermarket B series head. After purchasing a head, we found a long list of problems that basically made the head of no use, as either a bolt-on replacement, or as a core piece for modification. Since reporting all of the head’s issues, we agreed to help them develop a head that’s a true inexpensive bolt-on, that’ll out perform any stock Honda head, and offer business’s like our own a core piece that’s a better candidate for modification. > … > Exact pricing on the heads has yet to be determined, but the bare head should be available for less than $500.00, and the complete head for less than $900.00…and that makes these the deal of the century. Individual head components such as rockers and LMA’s will be available too. In addition to selling the heads, we will also be offering inexpensive Roller-Wave piston and rod kits for those looking to assemble killer LS/VTEC engines. ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/127 "2008-05-28T14:51:59Z")
> [@Hooked on BB1](#): > > A head is cheaper than a whole motor. thats very true, but a gsr swap would give some nice gains over the b18b1, ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/128 "2008-05-28T14:53:14Z")
> [@Garth Algar](#): > > yeah…i dunno i gotta get the timing belt tomorrow then compression test it then we will see from there… oh and the movie you got your name from is hilarious. WE’RE NOT WORTHY!! ---
**Author:** ![McBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@McBitchin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/McBitchin)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/129 "2008-05-28T14:57:24Z")
actually after checking out that head, get that shit, I agree with senor hooked on bb1 ---
**Author:** ![swaiknow](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/swaiknow/32/6359_2.png) [@swaiknow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/swaiknow)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/130 "2008-05-28T17:20:54Z")
> [@Hooked on BB1](#): > > Talking $$$ there. > > NA b18bs can be torquey little fuckers if you do em right tho. > > BTW, that link I posted is about a production head that is cast to OEM quality, but comes semi ported out of the box. You can get them pre-machined for LSVtec applications. A bare head is supposed to be around $500 and a complete head around $900. IDK bout you, but a complete NEW head for $900 is a fucking steal. it is a steal…i am not talkin fully built just upgrade some stuff so that when i wanna boost it i can…prolly go with stock compression pistons, and upgrade to like stage 2 valvetrain…but that is all depending on what happens…we will find out tomrrow ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/131 "2008-05-28T17:35:21Z")
With any luck you won’t have any damage. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Blue\_DA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@That\_Blue\_DA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/That_Blue_DA)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/132 "2008-05-28T21:04:26Z")
> [@Hooked on BMW](#): > > thats very true, but a gsr swap would give some nice gains over the b18b1, plus the VTEC y0! ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/133 "2008-05-28T21:07:12Z")
K20 it. /thread. :shifty ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/134 "2008-05-28T21:40:29Z")
Not everyone gets a K20 swap spoon fed to them. For most of us a K20 swap is upwards of 5K. Spend 5K on a lsvtec and it’ll walk all over the stock K20 that coulda been there. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/135 "2008-05-28T21:40:51Z")
H2B and you’ll get very similar results for A LOT cheaper. ---
**Author:** ![94Gt5.0](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/94gt5.0/32/6377_2.png) [@94Gt5.0](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/94Gt5.0)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/136 "2008-05-28T21:45:32Z")
Orrr, stop buying vehicles that mandate a motor swap, then built to be thought of as quick :confused ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/137 "2008-05-28T21:46:34Z")
> [@94Gt5.0](#): > > Orrr, stop buying vehicles that mandate a motor swap, then built to be thought of as quick :confused or remove your thumb from your ass :banana ---
**Author:** ![dc2nick](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dc2nick/32/6289_2.png) [@dc2nick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dc2nick)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/138 "2008-05-29T00:23:22Z")
keep your eyes open dude. you may find a real good deal on a GSR head. $400-$500 I bought my whole motor with a built head for $2000 ---
**Author:** ![SlackJ94](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/slackj94/32/6325_2.png) [@SlackJ94](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SlackJ94)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/139 "2008-05-29T05:04:17Z")
I boughy my whole motor, tranny, and ecu for that nick…you got rapped on that motor. ---
**Author:** ![Cliff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b38774/32.png) [@Cliff](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cliff)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183/140 "2008-05-29T14:18:25Z")
> [@Hooked on BB1](#): > > I boughy my whole motor, tranny, and ecu for that nick…you got rapped on that motor. What motor did you get? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/swaiknows-dc4/236183.md?page=8)