# T3/T67 H.O. **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 27, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423 "2007-07-27T19:30:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/21 "2007-07-28T15:18:42Z")
> [@TW: 2000 BMW 323ci Pics ADDED](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/tw-2000-bmw-323ci-pics-added/29664/28): > > I got the Journal bearing gt4294 it was 1100 shipped Im not baller enuff to afford the $1900 turbo whats another $800 😃 ---
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/22 "2007-07-28T15:20:13Z")
I thought the GT represented the ball bearing center section on the Garrett turbos ??? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/23 "2007-07-28T16:28:48Z")
the fact is the T3/67 you can still run a T3 mani where with the GT40 you have to go T4 ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/24 "2007-07-28T16:37:52Z")
> [@CHODA vs Muscle50 vs RX7 LS1 vs GTS Viper vs Psychopjv](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/choda-vs-muscle50-vs-rx7-ls1-vs-gts-viper-vs-psychopjv/31394/70): > > I thought the GT represented the ball bearing center section on the Garrett turbos ??? its the R after it that denotes the Ball bearing ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/25 "2007-07-28T16:39:02Z")
> [@Toyota concerned about quality](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/toyota-concerned-about-quality/31528/5): > > the fact is the T3/67 you can still run a T3 mani where with the GT40 you have to go T4 yes but if you have no mani why buy one twice?:dunno: Im not dogging on this turbo its a great turbo i am just arguing your point… ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/26 "2007-07-28T21:24:01Z")
joe sometimes i hate you because you get me in more trouble with these damn turbo cars lol but how much of a difference is there going to be with spool time on something big with a T4 housing, i wanna drive this car on the street as well. ---
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/27 "2007-07-29T09:39:24Z")
I am sure that full race offers a twin scroll manifold of the T4 variety for the GT40R’s and up , that would def be the way to roll if you are gonna go that big. Spray meth on it as well so you can run a bit more timing in it even during spoolup def will help with the spoolup characteristics !!! How big of a motor is it 2.0?? ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/28 "2007-07-29T10:26:51Z")
> [@Laser, Fun with....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/laser-fun-with/31602/6): > > If thats the case you should skip it all and go for the GT40 or 42 45R FTMFW ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/29 "2007-07-29T11:02:46Z")
> [@Are kak rings reusable?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/are-kak-rings-reusable/31614/17): > > I am sure that full race offers a twin scroll manifold of the T4 variety for the GT40R’s and up , that would def be the way to roll if you are gonna go that big. > > Spray meth on it as well so you can run a bit more timing in it even during spoolup def will help with the spoolup characteristics !!! > > How big of a motor is it 2.0?? Yes, it will be a sleeved 2.0 (gsr block 84mm) ---
**Author:** ![STEELCITYEVO8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@STEELCITYEVO8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STEELCITYEVO8)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/30 "2007-07-29T12:28:09Z")
whatever you decide just go with a ball bearing turbo. they take alot of abuse , plus better response. I dont know what full race is offering for the honda camp , but i know they are makin some twin scroll evo stuff. I only assume that they already have done some twin scroll honda designs. I have heard that the twin scroll dont flow quite as well up top as a normal flanged turbo , but the verdict is still out on this!!! when are you gonna have this project complete ? anytime soon? ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/31 "2007-07-29T14:33:43Z")
> [@closed section????](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/closed-section/31611/9): > > whatever you decide just go with a ball bearing turbo. they take alot of abuse , plus better response. I dont know what full race is offering for the honda camp , but i know they are makin some twin scroll evo stuff. I only assume that they already have done some twin scroll honda designs. > > I have heard that the twin scroll dont flow quite as well up top as a normal flanged turbo , but the verdict is still out on this!!! > > when are you gonna have this project complete ? anytime soon? i’ll be shooting for next year, block is on its way to golden eagle now and im deployed till early september and i figured i would take all winter to get it together and do it right and not rush it. ---
**Author:** ![Heart4Audio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d9b06d/32.png) [@Heart4Audio](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Heart4Audio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/32 "2007-07-29T15:27:41Z")
Good idea, bye bye tires ---
**Author:** ![fmfkid250](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fmfkid250/32/5973_2.png) [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/33 "2007-07-29T16:56:35Z")
Go with the t3/67 good turbo i seen 700whp @32psi thats plenty thats a buck a hp for that turbo ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/34 "2007-07-29T23:12:48Z")
> [@The baby blue shark hood neon tried chasing me down...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-baby-blue-shark-hood-neon-tried-chasing-me-down/30686/889): > > Go with the t3/67 good turbo i seen 700whp @32psi thats plenty thats a buck a hp for that turbo thats what i mean i can pick up this turbo for under a grand ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/35 "2007-07-30T09:29:19Z")
under a g it’s def not BB. what’s the A/R and wheel on the hot side? I run a .69A/R t4 with a p wheel and it’s nice and smooth when it comes in but takes 5k to get to 40psi. ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/36 "2007-07-30T11:26:51Z")
> [@Took a few pics](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/took-a-few-pics/31609/12): > > under a g it’s def not BB. what’s the A/R and wheel on the hot side? I run a .69A/R t4 with a p wheel and it’s nice and smooth when it comes in but takes 5k to get to 40psi. no its not BB, seems like everyone is obsessed with BB turbos these days. It’s a .82 a/r on the hot side and has a p trim wheel. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/37 "2007-07-30T11:38:37Z")
the 8x t3 hotsides are equivlant to the .6x t4’s so that’s pretty close to what I run except I have a much larger ar cold side and a 70mm wheel. But i bet i run a lot lower compression ratio than you do. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/38 "2007-07-30T15:47:35Z")
> [@T70\_Tsi"](#): > > the 8x t3 hotsides are equivlant to the .6x t4’s so that’s pretty close to what I run except I have a much larger ar cold side and a 70mm wheel. But i bet i run a lot lower compression ratio than you do. not really. it is still an S comp cover and a .70ar cold side with 4" inlet. it is a 67mm wheel and actually a little better of a turbo than the 70 you have in my opinion. here is a thread about the T3/67 HO > **[710whp 490wtq t3t67ho man do i need seat time. - Honda-Tech - Honda Forum...](https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/710whp-490wtq-t3t67ho-man-do-i-need-seat-time-2055005/)** > > Drag Racing - 710whp 490wtq t3t67ho man do i need seat time. - well first to thank and as always it is in no particular order dan back first. i am broke and he made this weekend happen, drew, james, jay, foster, jeff evans, joe and jeff tempest,... wrayzor you can’t spray meth on it or anything if you run power street. straight turbo and full exhaust and interior. here is a GT40R at 41psi [http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3073](http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=3073) compare that to this T3/t67 HO [http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=4392](http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=4392) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/39 "2007-07-30T20:45:29Z")
I am sure I can find other dyno sheets but I am lazy ---
**Author:** ![wrayzor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wrayzor/32/6021_2.png) [@wrayzor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wrayzor)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423/40 "2007-07-30T20:52:28Z")
Thanks Sam don’t like how that 40R just dropped off in the top end, may be a reason for that but I didn’t read into the thread. Keep in mind folks that I want to drive this car on the street too, it’s not gonna be a dedicated track car or dyno queen. Honestly I don’t think you can beat the price of the t3/t67 compared to all the BB turbos and the t3/t67 has the potential to go bigger then for example the 30R and 35R [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/t3-t67-h-o/191423.md?page=3)