# taking the meatless plunge... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [April 18, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444 "2011-04-18T21:20:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/41 "2011-04-19T10:40:07Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > A few months ago I made a serious effort to change my diet toward only whole foods. I am not 100 strict but very conscious of it and rarely eat non whole foods at this point, Feel amazing. I drink soy original but maybe I will give this almond milk a shot! > > I typically don’t think people get offended. I think they see people like Jam(no offense jam just example) who are still going to drink/smoke whatever and want to make this change so they say something. My point that I mention earlier was that I didn’t think it was the meat because all of he listed was all friend and nasty stuff. I felt ill just reading what he described as his diet. > > Alas any step in the right direction is better then no step at all though. Many people fail at changing health/lifestyle because they view it as all or nothing. So hey if this is what works for Jam and is making him feel good then kudos man! Try it out. Almond milk is rather good IMO. I like it better than soy actually. Soy protein has been linked to increased estrogen production according to some reading I’ve done. > [@boardjnky4](#): > > The only reason I said anything is because, as you stated, just because you’ve gone vegetarian doesn’t mean that you are all of the sudden eating healthy. > > Vegetarian pizza as described by the OP is not healthy food. > Mighty Taco, in any form, is not healthy food. > Substituting more starch and dairy for protein is NOT healthy. x2 Preservatives and non whole foods really aren’t “healthy”. I agree with Cougar tho…all or nothing isn’t the only way and just getting your feet wet isn’t a bad thing really. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/42 "2011-04-19T11:09:04Z")
It’s not even about whole vs non-whole (although high quality foods are always preferred). It’s about fatty dairies, processed grains (pizza dough, sub rolls, taco shells), GREASE and oil that all of that shit is cooked in, sugars, etc… Just cutting out shitty meat and replacing it with other CRAP is not going to make it any more healthy. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/43 "2011-04-19T11:20:33Z")
so many people hating on him holy fuck ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/44 "2011-04-19T11:48:09Z")
Just because it’s funny, take note of the fat and calorie comparisons between the Super Mighty and the Veggie Burrito ![http://www.mightytaco.com/images/ni_tac_bur.jpg](http://www.mightytaco.com/images/ni_tac_bur.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/45 "2011-04-19T11:50:56Z")
I agree above. You smoke and drink so much that you can’t hold enough liquor to get drunk, but your first step is to cut meat? Your first step should be to replace those cigs with slim jims. lol EDIT: Yesterday I ate a Taco Bell $5.00 beefy pack for the first time. Hell yea. That tortilla covering the hard shell thingy was the shit! I felt like a million bucks after mowwing down that meal. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/46 "2011-04-19T11:50:59Z")
Yeah, but look at sodium content. As I said though, substituting cheese is a bad idea… ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/47 "2011-04-19T12:00:33Z")
> [@ultradriver10000](#): > > I literally had one of the best dinners of my life yesterday. T-bone steak grilled by yours truly, home made macaroni and cheese, and homemade cream corn. The Mac & cheese was whole grain noodles with a white sauce and three different cheeses melted into it. Followed that up with some Blue Bell ice cream and a seasonal brew Shiner. Pure wonderful. I would only stop eating meat completely if someone paid me a lot, I was allergic, or the world meat supply ran out. shiner is awesome, a friend who goes to texas a&m brought me back a few 6 packs last summer. i wish we could get it up here and ya, t-bone is def my favorite choice when it comes to a steak. porterhouse and tenderloin, cooked with the bone in, so damn good ---
**Author:** ![copperlegend](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/copperlegend/32/7445_2.png) [@copperlegend](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/copperlegend)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/48 "2011-04-19T12:03:33Z")
Just don’t become a ‘potato chip vegetarian’. I hate that “Ooh, I don’t eat meat, I’m a vegetarian, it’s much healthier!” while scarfing down an entire bag of Lays or other junk food. ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/49 "2011-04-19T12:05:16Z")
I really dont understand how they’re managing to get that many carbs/fat into a super mighty. the super mighty actually looks better for you lol. I was on a strictly taco(lunch and dinner (lean beef, whole grain shells))diet for 5 or 6months last year and lost almost 9% body fat ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/50 "2011-04-19T12:10:14Z")
to quote frank zappa, “tobacco is my favorite vegetable.” everyone is seriously hating on my decision because i also smoke, literally, 4-5 cigarettes a day (and american spirits, no additives, 100% whole leaf tobacco grown in the good old us of a) and enjoy a few adult beverages from time to time. yes, i have a super high tolerance, i have been drinking since i was 16, i inherited good alcohol tolerance from my parents and its only gotten higher over time im not turning into a fucking insanely healthy person, i just want to stop eating meat bc i CHOOSE not to, for as long as i CHOOSE not to. and i am still going to eat fish, just no red meat, pork, or chicken. fuck. newman, how many drinking, chain smoking hipster vegans do you know? prob at least a few ---------- Post added at 03:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ---------- > [@copperlegend](#): > > Just don’t become a ‘potato chip vegetarian’. I hate that “Ooh, I don’t eat meat, I’m a vegetarian, it’s much healthier!” while scarfing down an entire bag of Lays or other junk food. lol. no. i really dont like chips, i snack on nuts all day long though one last thing, i posted this same thread on DITB and there was 1 person who hated on me, everyone else was super constructive and made great suggestions as to what i should substitute meat with, whats good, where to get it, and wish me luck. fact - nyspeed is a bunch of assholes ---
**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/51 "2011-04-19T12:11:41Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > i snack on nuts all day long though saving this one for later. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/52 "2011-04-19T12:19:32Z")
> [@Haenszel](#): > > saving this one for later. LOL ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/53 "2011-04-19T12:34:49Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > newman, how many drinking, chain smoking hipster vegans do you know? prob at least a few Probably a few but they’re either doing it for moral reasons… or because it’s “cool”… ---
**Author:** ![sportsallstar035](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@sportsallstar035](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sportsallstar035)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/54 "2011-04-19T12:46:15Z")
only one thing better than a stinger sub, thats a stinger pizza… mmm. nothing like hot sauce, blue cheese, steak and chicken finger sprinkled with mozzarella and cheddar cheese. fuck, going to make one now. ---
**Author:** ![deliverator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8baadc/32.png) [@deliverator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deliverator)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/55 "2011-04-19T12:52:02Z")
People have already got you on the right track with morningstar farms suggestions. Fake bacon FTW. Also delicious are Quorn Chik’n products. There’s another company that makes fantastic fake chicken fingers (they come in a white bag w/ orange at the top and bottom). Bake them in the oven. Pro-tip: get yourself a cheese sub from wherever you like, bring it home, and pack it full of fake chicken fingers. Go to The 8’s (888 Main St) and get yourself some avocado fries w/ mango curry sauce and then for dinner order their vegan sausage. Both are fantastic. Amy’s Place has some outstanding veggie-friendly wraps. The Margie Meal is my favorite (be sure to specify seitan instead of chicken). Also, while there, get yourself some Veggie Wet Shoes and soak it in hot sauce. Outstanding. Betty’s has a ton of vegetarian-friendly dishes. Been a vegetarian for three years, don’t miss meat at all. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/56 "2011-04-19T12:54:04Z")
i love amys place, i havent been there in a while ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/57 "2011-04-19T13:27:58Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > shiner is awesome, a friend who goes to texas a&m brought me back a few 6 packs last summer. i wish we could get it up here > > and ya, t-bone is def my favorite choice when it comes to a steak. porterhouse and tenderloin, cooked with the bone in, so damn good T-bone is definitely my number one choice, Rib-eye being number two. Shiner is such a quality beer, I don’t think they make one I don’t like. > [@copperlegend](#): > > Just don’t become a ‘potato chip vegetarian’. I hate that “Ooh, I don’t eat meat, I’m a vegetarian, it’s much healthier!” while scarfing down an entire bag of Lays or other junk food. My wife complains about this all the time. Girls trying to be cool or impress hipsters that become a veggie but guzzle monster and chips are the worse. Then they say they’re doing it to be healthy hahah. > [@Jam](#): > > i love amys place, i havent been there in a while That place rocks. I really enjoy a lot of vegan/veggie food, I just choose to eat everything. Three things I won’t eat are black lickerish, ginger roots, and cheap crummy coleslaw. I’m pretty much good with everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymity](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/anonymity/32/7215_2.png) [@Anonymity](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Anonymity)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/58 "2011-04-19T13:58:09Z")
just call me efficient, a cow spends all of its life eating “healthy” for me. Then I eat the cow. until I see a vegan lion, tiger, bear, wolf, crock, I will eat meat. In the correct portion size. Let me know when you fall off the vegan wagon and out of your womens jeans, cause I will buy you a steak. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/59 "2011-04-19T14:12:43Z")
> [@Anonymity](#): > > until I see a vegan lion, tiger, bear, wolf, crock, I will eat meat. In the correct portion size. lol, so true. Jam, you doing anything to stay active? ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444/60 "2011-04-19T14:17:52Z")
> [@Anonymity](#): > > just call me efficient, a cow spends all of its life eating “healty” for me. > > Then I eat the cow. Most meat comes from cows that do NOT eat even a little “healty” (or healthy). The eat a diet stuffed full of hormones and antibiotics… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taking-the-meatless-plunge/211444.md?page=4)