# Talk about depreciation
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [April 16, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124 "2018-04-16T21:28:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/1 "2018-04-16T21:28:29Z")
Now I never really kept track of these but weren’t they going for like 90K+ Because dealers were being assholes?
[https://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2015-hellcat/6554193018.html](https://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/d/2015-hellcat/6554193018.html)
EDIT: For all I know this is a good price lol
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### Author:  [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/2 "2018-04-17T05:46:58Z")
There was never a limit on how many they were going to make so that has to be a big factor. Also you now have the latest & greatest Demon which is what all the hellcat guys probably want. I think the production run on those is more limited so you might see those hold value better.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/3 "2018-04-17T05:53:58Z")
Does anyone know of a case where crazy dealer markup was actually justified and worked out for the purchaser years down the road? I can’t think of any examples.
I just remember the PT Cruiser craze…
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### Author:  [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/4 "2018-04-17T07:31:36Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Does anyone know of a case where crazy dealer markup was actually justified and worked out for the purchaser years down the road? I can’t think of any examples.
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> I just remember the PT Cruiser craze…
Worked out for Ford GTs
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/5 "2018-04-17T07:40:04Z")
> [@POOPRA](#):
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> Worked out for Ford GTs
Big time.
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### Author:  [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/6 "2018-04-17T09:14:18Z")
I shoulda gotta FGT when i could have. You can get a new Hellcat for sub $60K if you try. The demons are mid 80s if you want one.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/7 "2018-04-17T11:12:57Z")
this explains why i have been seeing 2 or 3 of these a day even in shitty weather.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/8 "2018-04-17T12:12:59Z")
It was a $60ish car new seems to have held its value well…
Obviously dealers marked up the first bunch but its been out a while now.
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### Author:  [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/9 "2018-04-17T12:44:18Z")
And it IS just a Dodge…albeit a very high horsepower one.
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### Author:  [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/10 "2018-04-17T12:46:48Z")
GT350Rs have held close to the dealer ADMs. The regular 350s have dropped as standard depreciation would dictate.
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### Author:  [@BOBBYGRV](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BOBBYGRV)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/11 "2018-04-17T16:10:23Z")
When I sold RVs, my least favorite part was when people came in a year later to trade in their rv and find out they were 90k upside down on their 1 year old RV.
400k sale price, 10-20% depreciation off the lot, 110% of msrp financed with minimal down payment…yeah, I’m glad I don’t do that anymore.
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### Author:  [@Beck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Beck)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/12 "2018-04-17T19:00:02Z")
There was a time when there was so much dealer stock, that you could lease a Hell Cat with nothing out of pocket for $450/month or so. It was STUPID cheap.
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/13 "2018-04-17T20:59:27Z")
I may consider one of these in about 5 years when they’re 15 grand. I bet they’re a hell of a lotta fun though.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/14 "2018-04-18T07:39:13Z")
> [@ubengineering](#):
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> I may consider one of these in about 5 years when they’re 15 grand. I bet they’re a hell of a lotta fun though.
I guess im missing something that case was mid 60s new in 2015…It’s now for sale(private sale) at $51500 it seemed to hold value pretty well.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2018, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/15 "2018-04-18T10:27:30Z")
> [@LZ](#):
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> I guess im missing something that case was mid 60s new in 2015…It’s now for sale(private sale) at $51500 it seemed to hold value pretty well.
I think what he’s saying is that people were paying $90k not sticker.
I don’t think I’d ever want something so much that I’d be willing to pay that much above MSRP.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2018, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/16 "2018-04-18T10:28:32Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> I think what he’s saying is that people were paying $90k not sticker.
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> I don’t think I’d ever want something so much that I’d be willing to pay that much above MSRP.
The first handful which happens with all the time with cars like this…
I know a few that went locally for MSRP
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### Author:  [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/17 "2018-04-18T14:27:35Z")
The only time it MAY be worthwhile to pay over sticker is if the manufacturer has already stated that they will only be building a limited quantity. In the Hellcats case, they’ll build as many as people will order. No point in paying extra just to have it a few months before everyone else.
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### Author:  [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/18 "2018-04-19T11:32:32Z")
Apparently some dealers are still aiming for higher prices than they are worth.
[https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=473784535&zip=14031&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D14031%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DCHALLENGER%26makeCodeList%3DDODGE%26searchRadius%3D25%26trimCodeList%3DCHALLENGER%7CSRT%2BHellcat&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=CHALLENGER&makeCodeList=DODGE&searchRadius=25&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=CHALLENGER](https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=473784535&zip=14031&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D14031%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DCHALLENGER%26makeCodeList%3DDODGE%26searchRadius%3D25%26trimCodeList%3DCHALLENGER%257CSRT%2BHellcat&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=CHALLENGER&makeCodeList=DODGE&searchRadius=25&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=CHALLENGER)
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### Author:  [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/19 "2018-04-19T20:53:12Z")
smokin deal! 😛
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2018, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-about-depreciation/275124/20 "2018-04-20T11:17:20Z")
I would presume that most people who pay over sticker for a Dodge are not looking for a good investment. An extra $25,000 or whatever is not a lot of money to some people. It is all relative.
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