# Talk me out of 2 iPhone4s today... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [February 3, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818 "2011-02-03T05:39:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/41 "2011-02-04T07:44:25Z")
> [@eskudo12791](#): > > so youre telling me the packets will carry no information regarding the systems browser. I have a hard time believing that. then go take intro to networking. > **[Transmission Control Protocol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol)** > > The Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) is one of the main protocols of the Internet protocol suite. It originated in the initial network implementation in which it complemented the Internet Protocol (IP). Therefore, the entire suite is commonly referred to as TCP/IP. TCP provides reliable, ordered, and error-checked delivery of a stream of octets (bytes) between applications running on hosts communicating via an IP network. Major internet applications such as the World Wide Web, email, remote ... TCP doesn’t care what data it carries, it only cares about it’s destination, and the status of the connection (it’s more complex than that, but that’s the dumb version). Destination = IP and port. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/42 "2011-02-04T08:12:08Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > I have one… will it wipe my phone clean? All z4root does is give you permission to do stuff that requires root access, like install Wireless Tether from the app store, or do the stuff necessary to install a custom ROM. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/43 "2011-02-04T08:17:19Z")
I can has tether again. Thanks fry 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/44 "2011-02-04T08:26:20Z")
I love wireless tether, but I hate using it in airports and stuff, and all sorts of random devices start auto-connecting to it. Thankfully it’s got a security mode to disallow them. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/45 "2011-02-04T08:51:52Z")
I tether my iP4 with MyWi. Works great. Can do USB or turn it into a hotspot. For a reason why not to get the VZW iPhone is that Apple is doing a refresh as usual in June for the iPhone 5. Some people are speculating that it will be just for the ATT iPhones and some are thinking that they are doing it for all them including the Verizon ones. Would be interesting to see if they are gonna dick over the people who are buying phones now and refresh them 6 months later of if they are going to do a new iPhone release twice a year with the newest models in the summer and then the CDMA version in Winter. ---------- Post added at 11:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:50 AM ---------- > [@boardjnky4](#): > > then go take intro to networking. > > [Transmission Control Protocol - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_Control_Protocol) > > TCP doesn’t care what data it carries, it only cares about it’s destination, and the status of the connection (it’s more complex than that, but that’s the dumb version). Destination = IP and port. I think you are kind of mistaken. The actual TCP protocol doesn’t contain the application level information since it establishes this session for transmission however the packet does contain this info since its wraps the application layer in its transmission which would have this included in the HTTP request as its encapsulated in the packet and frame Wikipedia the OSI model. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/46 "2011-02-04T09:07:45Z")
> [@boxxa](#): > > I tether my iP4 with MyWi. Works great. Can do USB or turn it into a hotspot. > > For a reason why not to get the VZW iPhone is that Apple is doing a refresh as usual in June for the iPhone 5. Some people are speculating that it will be just for the ATT iPhones and some are thinking that they are doing it for all them including the Verizon ones. Would be interesting to see if they are gonna dick over the people who are buying phones now and refresh them 6 months later of if they are going to do a new iPhone release twice a year with the newest models in the summer and then the CDMA version in Winter. > > ---------- Post added at 11:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:50 AM ---------- > > I think you are kind of mistaken. The actual TCP protocol doesn’t contain the application level information since it establishes this session for transmission however the packet does contain this info since its wraps the application layer in its transmission which would have this included in the HTTP request as its encapsulated in the packet and frame > > Wikipedia the OSI model. I know how it works…I am just really bad at explaining it (bad teacher I guess). ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/47 "2011-02-04T09:44:14Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > I know how it works…I am just really bad at explaining it (bad teacher I guess). No worries. I used to have to TA this crap to grad level students… ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/48 "2011-02-04T09:45:57Z")
Lol you guys The http request isn’t in plain text so therefore it’s not readable in a packet ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/49 "2011-02-04T09:48:48Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > Lol you guys > > The http request isn’t in plain text so therefore it’s not readable in a packet huh? ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/50 "2011-02-04T09:52:30Z")
I was trying to explain the difference between what IS visibile on the packet vs. what isn’t ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/51 "2011-02-04T09:55:09Z")
The whole point was looking at a user agent in a http request If you use ssl which works on the session layer the data is encrypted which includes the http header info ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/52 "2011-02-04T09:56:11Z")
Ah gotcha. Ya useragent is sent in the HTTP session. I fake my browser on my iPhone all the time so websites think I am running Firefox and not MobileSafari so I don’t get shitty mobile versions of sites. I push 10GB a month and no problems so doubt Verzion will be watching your packets. If I am downloading something I just connect to my VPN so its encrypted through ATTs network when I am doing something like downloading torrents. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/53 "2011-02-04T09:58:22Z")
If you were really worries use a VPN all phones support it ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/54 "2011-02-04T10:01:13Z")
Yo I just saw that Nokia and Microsoft are announcing some kind of partnership next week. You should definitely wait a year in case you can get an N8 running WP7. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/55 "2011-02-04T10:01:21Z")
What’s nerdier than a smartphone thread? A smartphone thread that devolves to a discussion on HTTP encryption. ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/56 "2011-02-04T12:36:44Z")
jesus my brain hurts from trying to decipher all of that nerd talk. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/57 "2011-02-04T12:48:36Z")
> [@Fry](#): > > Yo I just saw that Nokia and Microsoft are announcing some kind of partnership next week. You should definitely wait a year in case you can get an N8 running WP7. The WP7 interface is great…it just doesn’t impress me. The market blows on the windows phones. And Nokia has nothing in the states, so I’m not sure what kinda plan this is. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/58 "2011-02-04T13:06:01Z")
Yeah it’ll probably be some goofy service sharing thing or something. Bing on Meego or some silly shit like that. I wish I could get an E72 with BB OS6. I’d be a happy camper. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/59 "2011-02-04T13:08:24Z")
One day I pray that they release 0875D with the TT38e device… life would be so much better. Can you imagine that monopolization? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/talk-me-out-of-2-iphone4s-today/208818/60 "2011-02-04T13:20:19Z")
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