# Taxes, Clinton vs Bush

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**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\
**Created:** [April 21, 2008, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162 "2008-04-21T06:58:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/21 "2008-04-21T08:05:46Z")

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> [@JoesTypeS](#):
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> We have a massive war debt to pay for, the first real war ever that we haven’t raised taxes for. No wonder most people don’t give a shit, they’re not paying for it.

:word: :word: :word:

ALtho, the price will be paid later on obviously… war on credit is not a good idea IMO. Long run.

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**Author:** ![Avatar](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/avatar/32/5076_2.png) [@Avatar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Avatar)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/22 "2008-04-21T08:06:29Z")

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When I get drunk all I talk about is how we should nuke everyone… It’s great

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**Author:** ![ineedacar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@ineedacar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ineedacar)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/23 "2008-04-21T08:09:02Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> Umm well when people decide to raise their right hand and join the service and then ship off to fight a war…chances are they minght get hurt. Anyhow i thought you already signed up? What is holding you up? Damn you should say i recruited you i think i get like 3k or something.

really? PM me on that, I didn’t sign yet… I have to wait 3 more weeks for something to expire completely off my record before i’m allowed to actually sign ☹ it sucks because I prepared myself to be ready to leave like next week and now its gonna be at least a month ☹

PM me about that though, i’ll hook you up.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/24 "2008-04-21T08:09:35Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> ^ And I’m sure raising taxes on those corporations will fix the economy right up. Corporations don’t pass their costs down to the little guy or anything.

I once had an employee that just could/would not understand/admit that it was simple math, the more my expenses increase the more his beneifts would decrease.  
It is mind boggling really.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/25 "2008-04-21T08:12:59Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> we need the sumo wrestling and/or jousting thing. And raising corporate taxes at this time is debatable but lowering them shouldn’t even enter the discussion. spending wisely, which obviously left this administration long ago \> tax and spend \> don’t tax but spend anyway.

I can agree with that.

> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> Just so you guys know my parents might be throwing me a welcome home fourth of july party and everyone in this thread is invited. WTF does this have to do with anything you say? Well in a short i want to see you guys have these discussions intoxicated possibly with foam bats.

:tup: Drunken foam bat wars should decide the next election.

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/26 "2008-04-21T08:21:46Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> we need the sumo wrestling and/or jousting thing.

noted

> [@Avatar](#):
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> When I get drunk all I talk about is how we should nuke everyone… It’s great

PERFECT

> [@ineedacar](#):
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> really?  
> PM me about that though, i’ll hook you up.

I just looked it up and it is only 1k and it says i have to give your name before you interview with a recruiter. BOOO but thanks for offerring.

> [@JayS](#):
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> :tup: Drunken foam bat wars should decide the next election.

It would be a landslide because we all know Dems are all girly men while Repubs are burly men.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/27 "2008-04-21T08:24:05Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> It would be a landslide because we all know Dems are all girly men while Repubs are burly men.

But Obama has the young people’s vote. We’re in our prime. Conservatives are all old and grouchy. All we have to do is neutralize their primary advantage of all carrying guns. I’m only one man ☹

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**Author:** ![ineedacar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/48db29/32.png) [@ineedacar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ineedacar)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/28 "2008-04-21T08:24:39Z")

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> [@cougarspeed](#):
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> I just looked it up and it is only 1k and it says i have to give your name before you interview with a recruiter. BOOO but thanks for offerring.

damn wish I woulda known bro. If I don’t ship by July 4th i’m down for a party, it may be my last one before I go!!!

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**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/29 "2008-04-21T08:31:23Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> But Obama has the young people’s vote. We’re in our prime. Conservatives are all old and grouchy. All we have to do is neutralize their primary advantage of all carrying guns. I’m only one man ☹

You might have heard the term “old man strength” this is not a myth, combined wuth bitterness and our guns and we will rule the world!!!Or atleast start wars in it. ZING!

> [@ineedacar](#):
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> damn wish I woulda known bro. If I don’t ship by July 4th i’m down for a party, it may be my last one before I go!!!

Ahh good to know i wont have to search too hard if we need some pot. i keed i keed.

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**Author:** ![sickboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@sickboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sickboy)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/30 "2008-04-21T08:32:20Z")

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Tax cuts like Bush & congress have been giving out can’t be sustained long term. period. It’s putting us so far into the red as a nation our grandkids will still be paying for the Iraq war. Finally after almost 8 years of running this country into the ground people are waking up to Bush’s village idiot economics, the dollar is tanking, inflation is hitting, and the economy is going to the shitter. But the rich have gotten richer, and the poor are getting poorer, and I guess that’s good news for Bush & Co.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/31 "2008-04-21T09:08:39Z")

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Tax cuts NEVER hurt an economy SPENDING does.  
Just wanted to make that clear.🙂

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/32 "2008-04-21T09:14:33Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> Tax cuts NEVER hurt an economy SPENDING does.  
> Just wanted to make that clear.🙂

There’s only so much spending you can cut. If the government didn’t spend any money, the economy would suck.

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**Author:** ![Karter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e480ec/32.png) [@Karter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Karter)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/33 "2008-04-21T09:15:23Z")

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can we get a Gas Prices Clinton vs Bush thread?

edit/ or Even a National Debt thread.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/34 "2008-04-21T09:24:05Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> There’s only so much spending you can cut. If the government didn’t spend any money, the economy would suck.

Unfortunately there is some truth to that because the government has now created generations of people that don’t feel the need to contribute.  
100+ years ago less spending worked fabulously but, that is when people needed to work.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/35 "2008-04-21T09:29:17Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> Tax cuts NEVER hurt an economy SPENDING does.  
> Just wanted to make that clear.🙂

Tax cuts = spending

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/36 "2008-04-21T09:29:23Z")

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> [@Viper966](#):
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> here we go, hang on!

ooh look what happened ![http://www.ladonia.net/new_herald/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/H5snowball.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/9/e9ce1d77b8354d159d0207a598ac20151e9f18c6.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/37 "2008-04-21T09:35:01Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> Unfortunately there is some truth to that because the government has now created generations of people that don’t feel the need to contribute.  
> 100+ years ago less spending worked fabulously but, that is when people needed to work.

I wasn’t referring to that. I was referring to if you put all teachers, police, firemen, construction workers, military personnel, rocket scientists at nasa, local government employees, etc. out of work, and stopped the government from buying trillions of dollars worth of crap a year, the results would not be good. For the economy or otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/38 "2008-04-21T09:39:08Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> Tax cuts = spending
> 
> ?

OMFG!:picard:

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/39 "2008-04-21T09:41:56Z")

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> [@Joe](#):
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> I wasn’t referring to that. I was referring to if you put all teachers, police, firemen, construction workers, military personnel, rocket scientists at nasa, local government employees, etc. out of work, and stopped the government from buying trillions of dollars worth of crap a year, the results would not be good. For the economy or otherwise.

Put them out of work?  
See that explains it, you think people need to be paid by the government.  
Have you ever heard of the brand new idea of private schools?  
:picard:

I don’t know why I click on these threads.:biglaugh:  
It just shows me where this country is headed I guess.

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**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/taxes-clinton-vs-bush/47162/40 "2008-04-21T09:48:32Z")

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> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> Put them out of work?  
> See that explains it, you think people need to be paid by the government.  
> Have you ever heard of the brand new idea of private schools?  
> :picard:
> 
> I don’t know why I click on these threads.:biglaugh:  
> It just shows me where this country is headed I guess.

Hmm, private schools. The ones where parents pay college-like tuitions, yet teachers make dick. Yeah, those are great. Most private school teachers are entry-level out of college, putting their time in until they can get a real job in a public system.

How about the rest of that stuff. Should we privatize police? Let halliburton take over the military? Do tell

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