# techno geeky people help 60hz vs 120hz **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [November 23, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719 "2010-11-23T19:03:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![h0twh3els](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/h0twh3els/32/6615_2.png) [@h0twh3els](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/h0twh3els)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 8:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/21 "2010-11-25T08:11:30Z")
> [@FS:alot of items here need to sell fast.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-alot-of-items-here-need-to-sell-fast/37497/9): > > Your TV sucks, and so does my Samsung LCD. Calibrations make a hell of a difference, but LCD still pales by comparison (if they are both calibrated correctly). > > šŸ˜‰ You can lick dez nutz. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/22 "2010-11-25T08:43:45Z")
i see some tvā€™s with a 600hz refresh rate; why is that so high compared to the normal 60-120hz? is this actually something different? i was looking at picking up one tomorrow as well. possibly this: [http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/All-VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TC-P42U2\_11002\_7000000000000005702](http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/All-VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TC-P42U2_11002_7000000000000005702) ---
**Author:** ![plaf713](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@plaf713](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/plaf713)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/23 "2010-11-25T15:56:24Z")
I have 600hz on my 50 plasma and absolutely love it. I believe you can only get it that high in a plasma. Picture is amazing and have no complaints ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/24 "2010-11-25T20:08:13Z")
> [@FS:alot of items here need to sell fast.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-alot-of-items-here-need-to-sell-fast/37497/9): > > Your TV sucks, and so does my Samsung LCD. Calibrations make a hell of a difference, but LCD still pales by comparison (if they are both calibrated correctly). > > šŸ˜‰ Depends on the quality of an LCDā€¦ Itā€™s all personal preference to be honestā€¦ I calibrate all my tvā€™s to what they ā€œshould beā€ and i always tweak them to what I likeā€¦ what looks good to one person may not to anotherā€¦ specifically flesh tones ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/25 "2010-11-26T04:44:46Z")
pioneer plasma \> everything in existance. i have a panasonic and love it but pioneer is moar bettars. i want one. cool story ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/26 "2010-11-26T07:12:49Z")
I just picked up a cheap 32" 720p 60hz for the bedroo. Its a garbage brand but the Black Friday deal was mint. Compared to our other tv though I noticed that on certain cable channels my blacks look pixelated and have a gradient. It is hooked up to a timewarner cable digital box using their bigger 5 wire component wires only because the cable guy said for them it worked better than the HDMI output. Is he BSing cause my other 37" doesnt have this issue but that is 1080p 60hz? Settings are ā€œStandardā€ 720p on the tv with the backlight all the way up and on the cable box it is set to 720p with the 4:3 aspect ration. Should i try 1080p through the cable box? I noticed on the xbox360 which runs on hDMI the picture is clear and clean as day and I usually sit on the floor like 4 feet away to play that; while tv viewing is done for atleast 10 feet away in the bad ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/27 "2010-11-26T08:45:28Z")
use the hdmi cable 4 sh0. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/28 "2010-11-26T09:02:55Z")
Werd, if you want real HD, you need to use HDMI cables. Only HDMI can deliver uncompressed digital data from your cable box to TV, same with any other devices to your TV. All other cables can only transmit compressed analog data. Whatā€™s very funny is 99% of the people who think the 600hz refresh rate of plasma is so amazing, but Iā€™m sure none of them bought the HDMI cables needed for the data transfer of that size in 1080p as theyā€™re stupidly expensive unless you work at Best Buy or such where they mark them up multiple, multiple times. Not all HDMI cables are the same. For a 720p 60Hz, youā€™ll be fine with most stuff. Iā€™m 99% sure TWC only maxes out at 1080i or 720p for their HD anyways, and I know at least the XB360 only outputs at a max of 60Hz. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/29 "2010-11-26T09:04:37Z")
i bought the plasma with the 600 refresh rate today. it was a hell of a lot cheaper than the LCDs with the same specs (42", 1080p and at least 120hz). for $550, Iā€™m sure ill be satisfied. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/30 "2010-11-26T09:23:55Z")
> [@Who has shipped a transmission?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-has-shipped-a-transmission/37513/18): > > i bought the plasma with the 600 refresh rate today. it was a hell of a lot cheaper than the LCDs with the same specs (42", 1080p and at least 120hz). for $550, Iā€™m sure ill be satisfied. For that price Iā€™m sure you will be, I was just giving some knowledge on the subject of the HDMI cables. Iā€™m just happy I was able to get my Monsterā€™s at employee pricing at a major retailer. ---
**Author:** ![SRS\_BZNS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/srs_bzns/32/6375_2.png) [@SRS\_BZNS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SRS_BZNS)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/31 "2010-11-26T09:41:45Z")
Iā€™ll plug in one of my HDMI cable to the cable box when i get home. ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/32 "2010-11-26T09:44:10Z")
I have to fully disagree with you. HDMI cable quality difference is a myth created by companies like Monster. Donā€™t buy into it. A 0 is a 0 and a 1 is a 1 regardless of SNRā€¦ the only time it is a concern is when there are long runs and losses are high and when I say long I mean 100FT as the voltage drop is too high to carry the signal. On top of that, refresh rate has NOTHING to do with the cable, whether it be VGA/RGB or HDMI/DVI. As Iā€™ve said before, 24fps is still 24fps regardless of your refresh rate ceiling. No device outputs in 600hz, but the panel refreshes at 600hzā€¦ it was just another number that they added to make numbers comparable between LCD and Plasma. Basically what Iā€™m saying is, itā€™s bullshit. I will however agree that there are BETTER BUILT cables. This does not mean that they display a better picture (they donā€™t, itā€™s actually impossible.) but they will withstand more abuse. In the case of component cables, they are analog so SNR does apply. If the cable is within an acceptable range, you will never tell the difference between it and HDMI. ---
**Author:** ![deadbeatrec](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deadbeatrec/32/6401_2.png) [@deadbeatrec](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deadbeatrec)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/33 "2010-11-26T10:26:54Z")
i love lamp. :retardclap ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/34 "2010-11-26T12:31:01Z")
> [@Sport sedans...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sport-sedans/37501/23): > > For that price Iā€™m sure you will be, I was just giving some knowledge on the subject of the HDMI cables. Iā€™m just happy I was able to get my Monsterā€™s at employee pricing at a major retailer. word. i wasnt saying anything against what you said about cables; maybe it came off that way? ---
**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/35 "2010-11-26T12:41:23Z")
I have some cheap HDMI cable from ebay or something, from Ps3 to tv right now. I actually got a deal on Rocketfish HDMI cable, so I have yet to swap it, but Im curious to see if there is any difference going from a cheap 6ft cable, to a decent 3ft one. Im not thinking there will be a difference, but I will see for myself, as they are just sitting here anyways. lol ---
**Author:** ![Shady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Shady](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shady)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/36 "2010-11-26T13:39:52Z")
> [@BMW 1 Series tii](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bmw-1-series-tii/37525/17): > > Werd, if you want real HD, you need to use HDMI cables. Only HDMI can deliver uncompressed digital data from your cable box to TV, same with any other devices to your TV. All other cables can only transmit compressed analog data. > > Whatā€™s very funny is 99% of the people who think the 600hz refresh rate of plasma is so amazing, but Iā€™m sure none of them bought the HDMI cables needed for the data transfer of that size in 1080p as theyā€™re stupidly expensive unless you work at Best Buy or such where they mark them up multiple, multiple times. Not all HDMI cables are the same. For a 720p 60Hz, youā€™ll be fine with most stuff. Iā€™m 99% sure TWC only maxes out at 1080i or 720p for their HD anyways, and I know at least the XB360 only outputs at a max of 60Hz. > [@Sport sedans...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sport-sedans/37501/24): > > I have to fully disagree with you. HDMI cable quality difference is a myth created by companies like Monster. Donā€™t buy into it. A 0 is a 0 and a 1 is a 1 regardless of SNRā€¦ the only time it is a concern is when there are long runs and losses are high and when I say long I mean 100FT as the voltage drop is too high to carry the signal. On top of that, refresh rate has NOTHING to do with the cable, whether it be VGA/RGB or HDMI/DVI. As Iā€™ve said before, 24fps is still 24fps regardless of your refresh rate ceiling. No device outputs in 600hz, but the panel refreshes at 600hzā€¦ it was just another number that they added to make numbers comparable between LCD and Plasma. > > Basically what Iā€™m saying is, itā€™s bullshit. > > I will however agree that there are BETTER BUILT cables. This does not mean that they display a better picture (they donā€™t, itā€™s actually impossible.) but they will withstand more abuse. > > In the case of component cables, they are analog so SNR does apply. If the cable is within an acceptable range, you will never tell the difference between it and HDMI. As with what J here saidā€¦ That is completely FALSE, its some bullshit that has been done as marketing by companies such as monster to get people to pay ridiculous ammounts of money for cables and the quality not being any different. As J daniels said the only time ā€œqualityā€ is a concern is on long runs, and still the brand of the cable doesnt matter, its the size gauge wire that is used for the run. A 4 dollar 6ft Ebay HDMI cable will work just as well as a 6ft monster cables thats ~50 bucks If you want quality HDMI cables that are not ridiculously overpriced go to [www.monoprice.com](http://www.monoprice.com) or if you want to support a small company here in the US based out of texas go to [www.bluejeanscable.com](http://www.bluejeanscable.com) I got a 20 Gauge 40FT HDMI cable from them for 35 bucksā€¦ not a single issue with itā€¦ fucker is thick thou, was a pain right in the cock to run and keep hidden. People who buy monster cable (or any overpriced POS) just want bragging rightsā€¦ its just a my dick is bigger than yours thing. Itā€™s amazing to me what false Bullshit people will buy from marketing/retarded salesman or some guy who just seems to have ā€œall nice shitā€ so he must know what hes talking about. Iā€™ll put money that says my Toshiba REAR PROJECTION HDTV (not dlp) would look better than mosts newer LCD TVā€™s simply because I spent a balls load of time calibrating the damn thing. ---
**Author:** ![dkid15](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dkid15/32/6398_2.png) [@dkid15](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dkid15)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/37 "2010-11-26T19:58:52Z")
Ive got a 47" inch LCD that 1080p and 60hz. I donā€™t notice much of a difference unless we use the gold plated HDMI cable. Really overkill. My room mate has a 50inch samsung slim LED at his house in NYC. All i have to say is wow. Worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/38 "2010-11-27T08:02:08Z")
I got my info from wiki, not Monster lol. And the only reason I got the Monster cables are because I got the BB employee discount. $35 I think for the Monster 1000 8ā€™ cables instead of $200 or something. ---
**Author:** ![Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hang_your_cross/32/6381_2.png) [@Hang\_Your\_Cross](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Hang_Your_Cross)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/39 "2010-11-27T08:28:08Z")
All I have to say is Sears is fucking awesome! I ordered this for $550 at 11:34 AM yesterday. [http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/All-VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TC-P42S2\_11002\_7000000000000005702](http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Televisions/All-VIERA-Flat-Panel-HDTVs/model.TC-P42S2_11002_7000000000000005702) I get an email last night that they are sold out of them. However, they offered me this for the same price in hopes Iā€™m not upset: [http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/462472364](http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/462472364) America! Fuck yeah! ---
**Author:** ![Ilya](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ilya/32/6404_2.png) [@Ilya](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ilya)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719/40 "2010-11-27T10:10:28Z")
Nice dude. LED LCD is nothing like LCD. Youā€™re better off with that bad boy than anything else. Not to mention you can connect it to the internet (you couldnā€™t connect the Panasonic), you have DLNA should you need it, and it weighs less. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/techno-geeky-people-help-60hz-vs-120hz/255719.md?page=3)