# Teen accidentaly shoots himself in the head. **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [June 8, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037 "2012-06-08T19:18:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/81 "2012-06-12T10:26:43Z")
Interesting. > **[4-year-old picks up gun, shoots father](http://ohhshoot.blogspot.com/2012/03/4-year-old-picks-up-gun-shoots-father.html?m=1)** > > A 4-year-old boy was in a pick-up truck with his father, 29-year-old Christopher Upenieks, of Mason City, Iowa, when the boy picked up a han... > A 4-year-old boy was in a pick-up truck with his father, 29-year-old Christopher Upenieks, of Mason City, Iowa, when the boy picked up a handgun and fired it. The bullet hit Upenieks in the knee. > When police arrived the two were in the parked truck outside their home. Upenieks was taken to the hospital and treated for non-life threatening injuries. > Upenieks, who has a concealed weapons permit, has been charged with child endangerment and allowing a minor access to a firearm for leaving a loaded, unsecured firearm where the child could access it. ---
**Author:** ![99FRC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/99frc/32/6335_2.png) [@99FRC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/99FRC)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/82 "2012-06-12T11:47:15Z")
What I find to be funny is people getting heated over ONE firearm death in the area in who knows how long, while in one weekend in Lake George , FOUR people died riding motorcycles. Firearms, cars, bikes, eating with a plastic spoon, everything has its own inherent dangers. And each of them should be treated with respect. Regardless, accidents do happen no matter how safe you are. Completely disagree with Murdogg, not because you dont have a good argument, I do see the logic, but because you open the doors to subjective ideology concerning our RIGHT to bear arm. Once you say not everyone should own a firearm, then whos the person that decides who can and cant? And how far can they go with that before noone has any guns at all? Matty, im glad you owned up to being wrong about judging the way John raises his kids, because you were wrong. Its your opinion, thay does not mean your right or wrong. I side with John because I was raised the same way. My dad taught me firearm safety at a young age, and its true, it eliminates a lot of temptation. It is still up to the parents to keep guns safe. Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/83 "2012-06-12T11:56:56Z")
> [@Callout: Anyone in or around high 11's - 12's](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-anyone-in-or-around-high-11s-12s/49834/11): > > What I find to be funny is people getting heated over ONE firearm death in the area in who knows how long, while in one weekend in Lake George , FOUR people died riding motorcycles. Firearms, cars, bikes, eating with a plastic spoon, everything has its own inherent dangers. And each of them should be treated with respect. Regardless, accidents do happen no matter how safe you are. > > Completely disagree with Murdogg, not because you dont have a good argument, I do see the logic, but because you open the doors to subjective ideology concerning our RIGHT to bear arm. Once you say not everyone should own a firearm, then whos the person that decides who can and cant? And how far can they go with that before noone has any guns at all? > > Matty, im glad you owned up to being wrong about judging the way John raises his kids, because you were wrong. Its your opinion, thay does not mean your right or wrong. I side with John because I was raised the same way. My dad taught me firearm safety at a young age, and its true, it eliminates a lot of temptation. It is still up to the parents to keep guns safe. > > Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2 That’s because safety is a dirty word and when you try to tell people to be responsible whether bike, gun or otherwise and take proper precautions you get crucified and told to my your own business as this is America and one is free to do whatever he wants no matter how reckless it may be. Nobody likes to be told to wear their seatbelt, wear their helmet, have to take classes to own certain firearms or have to have your firearms locked and out of reach. It’s seldom done when it’s mandatory, and you can bet it’s almost never done when there is no law for it. It still freaks me out going to other states and seeing people ride without a helmet especially after the giant gouges (sp?) in my helmets from rocks and debree hitting it. ---
**Author:** ![JSEnclosures](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jsenclosures/32/6678_2.png) [@JSEnclosures](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JSEnclosures)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/84 "2012-06-12T11:57:45Z")
nothing accidental about this, the idiot put a guy to his head and pulled the trigger, that’s pretty intentional. I remember eddie eagle from when i was a kid, they should show this to all little kids in school. Regardless of wether people (parents) think guns are good or bad, I think everyone should learn gun safety. [ame][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIEBrb\_wRYc[/ame]](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIEBrb_wRYc%5B/ame%5D) ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/85 "2012-06-12T12:40:12Z")
![http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070804203507/uncyclopedia/images/9/9b/Right_To_Bear_Arms.jpg](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070804203507/uncyclopedia/images/9/9b/Right_To_Bear_Arms.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/86 "2012-06-12T13:11:05Z")
> [@Should we be scared?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/should-we-be-scared/46731/30): > > Haha yah thats pretty outrageous. How dangerous do you think a musket shooting spree would be now days compared to an automatic ak47. You tried to say that a football can be a weapon… how does that compare to a gun? If you went into a duel which would you take a gun or a football? But if a football can be compared to a gun then I guess if we all have the right to bear arms we should be able to have our own nuclear weapons. Its our right… says it in the first amendment. > [@4:20](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-20/30408/365): > > You are 100% desperately reaching, the musket didnt have a safety but you had to pull the hammer back in order to fire it. Then once you fired it you had to spend 2 minutes, if you were fast, to reload it. The difference between the car and the gun is its purpose. The firearm was invented in order to injure or kill something. The car was invented to move people from A to B. Completely different. > [@Anybody heard of Thomas McCollum](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anybody-heard-of-thomas-mccollum/49869/2): > > Im not saying that its not relevant… you just have to apply it reasonably, not everyone deserves the right to bear arms especially arms that could be more dangerous than others. And yes an ak is much more dangerous than a musket, please give me some examples of musket rampages. LOL and i agree. :rofl > [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/191): > That looks alot like OhhNoPoPo! 🤣rofl ---
**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/87 "2012-06-12T13:48:20Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/283): > > Matty your retarded. > > What’s with people on this forum callings mags clips and firearms weapons. because firearms are weapons… ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/88 "2012-06-12T13:52:32Z")
:rofl ---
**Author:** ![v8lonoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@v8lonoma](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/v8lonoma)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/89 "2012-06-12T13:55:15Z")
> [@new buffalo metal band](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-buffalo-metal-band/49884/4): > > because firearms are weapons… this is easily debateable from either side. ill agree to disagree with you. 99frc- good post, + repped. ---
**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/90 "2012-06-12T13:55:52Z")
> [@new buffalo metal band](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-buffalo-metal-band/49884/4): > > because firearms are weapons… Hahahahaha :lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/91 "2012-06-12T14:19:58Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/306): > > this is easily debateable from either side. ill agree to disagree with you. > > 99frc- good post, + repped. > A **firearm** is a weapon that launches one or more [projectile](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projectile)(s) at high velocity through confined [burning](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustion) of a [propellant](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propellant). > **[Firearm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm)** > > A firearm is any type of gun that uses an explosive charge and is designed to be readily carried and used by an individual. The term is legally defined further in different countries (see Legal definitions). > The first firearms originated in 10th-century China, when bamboo tubes containing gunpowder and pellet projectiles were mounted on spears to make the portable fire lance, operable by a single person, which was later used effectively as a shock weapon in the siege of De'an in 1132. In the 1... > fire·arm > A weapon, especially a pistol or rifle, capable of firing a projectile and using an explosive charge as a propellant. > [Firearm - definition of firearm by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/firearm) Webster > **fire·arm** > **:** a weapon from which a shot is discharged by gunpowder —usually used of small arms > [Firearm Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/firearm) Not sure what there it to debate here, seems a pretty well established definition, only thing left in question are opinions. I actually lol’ed when I saw his post. ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/92 "2012-06-12T14:28:31Z")
I cant wait to hear how firearms are not weapons in some peoples eyes… :pop ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/93 "2012-06-12T17:29:57Z")
🤣rofl:rofl what a tard ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/94 "2012-06-12T18:14:19Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/307): > > I cant wait to hear how firearms are not weapons in some peoples eyes… > > :pop Because I don’t use them as a weapon. I don’t know anyone unless they’re an LEO or in the military that uses their firearm as a weapon. Things have multiple uses, as I have said before. I use a knife for opening boxes and cutting food. It can also kill someone. You can consider either those a weapon, that’s fine by me. But I do not use it as one, nor do I plan to, thus I do not classify a firearm as a weapon. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/95 "2012-06-12T18:18:50Z")
Chris as we all know I’m a gun enthusiast but come on man lol , a gun is a weapon just as much as it is a hobby etc . If we all just wanted to make holes in targets we would still use a wrist rocket or a dart board . ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/96 "2012-06-12T18:25:23Z")
> [@Callout: Mindless or any 11sec or better cars. slight\_smile](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-mindless-or-any-11sec-or-better-cars/48316/322): > > Chris as we all know I’m a gun enthusiast but come on man lol , a gun is a weapon just as much as it is a hobby etc . If we all just wanted to make holes in targets we would still use a wrist rocket or a dart board . I’ll continue to let you guys argue with my _opinion_ on something. :popcorn While we’re at it: Hondas, Nissans, Toyotas, Chevys, Dodges, Audis, Mercedes, Suzukis, Mitsubishis, Jeeps, Fords, Volkswagens, and Subarus all suck. :popcorn ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/97 "2012-06-12T18:41:41Z")
U forgot BMW. And a few others !!! They all suck dude and we all know and agree on that . Now go buy a viper and show Singh ya can fit in it ya fat Fuck lol ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/98 "2012-06-12T18:56:51Z")
> [@bad accident in front of southgate](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bad-accident-in-front-of-southgate/49841/56): > > Because I don’t use them as a weapon. I don’t know anyone unless they’re an LEO or in the military that uses their firearm as a weapon. Things have multiple uses, as I have said before. > > I use a knife for opening boxes and cutting food. It can also kill someone. > > You can consider either those a weapon, that’s fine by me. But I do not use it as one, nor do I plan to, thus I do not classify a firearm as a weapon. Not arguing with your per-say but a counter point. If somebody broke into your house and you wanted a weapon to defend yourself, what would you reach for? If a person uses a tank to commute to work, it doesn’t make it a vehicle, it’s just a not used weapon that’s re-purposed. Just cause you don’t use a knife or a boxcuter to cut anybody doesn’t make it any less of a weapon. There is a reason those things are banned from Airplanes. Knifes have been a basic weapon since the beginning of time in millions of different shapes and sizes. If you would ever reach for a firearm to defend yourself, it’s a weapon. Fuck even a car is considered a weapon if you try to run somebody over, especially a cop. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/99 "2012-06-12T18:58:12Z")
I take it porsche is included in audi? ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037/100 "2012-06-12T18:58:35Z")
> [@Vovchandr"](#): > > Not arguing with your per-say but a counter point. > > If somebody broke into your house and you wanted a weapon to defend yourself, what would you reach for? > > If a person uses a tank to commute to work, it doesn’t make it a vehicle, it’s just a not used weapon that’s re-purposed. Just cause you don’t use a knife or a boxcuter to cut anybody doesn’t make it any less of a weapon. There is a reason those things are banned from Airplanes. Knifes have been a basic weapon since the beginning of time in millions of different shapes and sizes. > > If you would ever reach for a firearm to defend yourself, it’s a weapon. **Fuck even a car is considered a weapon if you try to run somebody over, especially a cop.** We agree on something! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/teen-accidentaly-shoots-himself-in-the-head/264037.md?page=6)