# the beginning of the end or the next big war?You choose
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398
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**Created:** [July 13, 2008, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398 "2008-07-13T10:16:28Z")
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/41 "2008-07-13T18:29:30Z")
Im going to australia. to fuck some kangaroos
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/42 "2008-07-13T18:36:33Z")
> [@j\_espo1](#):
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> **[Feds plan to rescue Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/13/news/economy/fannie_freddie_sunday/index.htm?postversion=2008071318)**
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> The Treasury Department and Federal Reserve on Sunday outlined a comprehensive government plan to prop up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two mortgage finance giants that own or back $5 trillion in home mortgages. [full story](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/13/news/economy/fannie_freddie_sunday/index.htm?postversion=2008071318)
just waiting to hear who buys them out for pennies on the dollar (with help from the Fed obviously) and recapitalizes when the stock jumps back.
> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> this thread does shed some light on the situation for sure. On the other hand, Bing, you certainly come off as a conspiracy therorist. Especially so in the 911 threads. You back up your views with many publications, so at least you are educated on the matter. However, your views are VERY one sided, and you are VERY anti-America.
oh fuck shut up… you lose here anyways, not me.
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/43 "2008-07-13T19:08:20Z")
> [@bing](#):
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> just waiting to hear who buys them out for pennies on the dollar (with help from the Fed obviously) and recapitalizes when the stock jumps back.
Simple,China, japan,and everyone else holding U.S dollars that are becoming worthless.Turn them in and buy up all the real estate,banks,etc. like they have been doing the last few years
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### Author:  [@Superium](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Superium)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/44 "2008-07-13T19:17:31Z")
Well what percentage of our oil comes from Iran? I thought we only get around 10% from them but I’m probably wrong.
…haha miss usa just fell on her ass.
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### Author:  [@Penfold](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Penfold)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/45 "2008-07-13T19:38:04Z")
Yep, Iran opened up their oil bourse a while back and was accepting Iranian currency.
I do not think it was any coincidence that Iraq switched to euros shortly before we attacked them.
I am with misteroman$$$ on the gold/silver/guns/ammo thing. It doesnt hurt to have them just in case.
On the Freddie and Fannie subject, it is my understanding that they are leverage somewhere between 60:1 and 200:1 and only in for more hurt.
My source is this. [http://market-ticker.denninger.net/](http://market-ticker.denninger.net/)
It was written before the gov announcement of their plan and according to that guy their plan is only going to make things worse.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/46 "2008-07-13T19:56:44Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> Simple,China, japan,and everyone else holding U.S dollars that are becoming worthless.Turn them in and buy up all the real estate,banks,etc. like they have been doing the last few years
QFT.
Been calling for this for a couple of years now.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/47 "2008-07-13T20:06:01Z")
the friggin brown dudes with butt-tons of oil money own SCORES of north american real estate, corporations etc… it’s retarded.
if that information were published i bet america goes bonkers
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/48 "2008-07-13T20:11:47Z")
it’s so funny that you mention that bing. perfect timing. lol
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/49 "2008-07-13T20:19:07Z")
:tinfoilhat:
and Freddie/Fanny aren’t going anywhere.
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/50 "2008-07-13T20:21:16Z")
> [@walter](#):
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> :tinfoilhat:
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> and Freddie/Fanny aren’t going anywhere.
you’re right they aren’t going anywhere but they won’t be owned by any US firm
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/51 "2008-07-13T20:37:14Z")
> [@The\_Russian](#):
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> Fucking DRILL THE FUCK OUT OF CANADA!
No.
> [@Superium](#):
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> Well what percentage of our oil comes from Iran?
No.
> [@AWDrifter](#):
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> How much oil do we get from Iran?
> Why do we get any from Iran?
No.
> [@Just Karter](#):
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> I’m tired of hearing about Oil.
No.
> [@OfficerK](#):
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> im walking to work…screw cars.
No.
> [@forthekicks385](#):
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> i got a idea “DRILL HERE, DRILL RIGHT FUCKING NOW!”
No.
> [@MOBOOST4U](#):
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> Shale Oil research FTW… we will hold the world at our crotch for another 100 years.
No.
> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> it’s not about the oil really,it’s about how the world is paying for oil.
> Karter,it’s about the US dollar not oil.
Yes.
You guys should push aside some of the 9/11 theories he’s brought up and pay attention to bing when he talks about this. This isn’t about oil, it’s about the US dollar being on the oil standard.
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> This is a really stupid question. i know oil is in everything around us. synthetic materials, plastics, electronics, whatever. What the hell are our options as far as alternatives are concerned? I dont just mean fuels and lbricants either.
Unindustrialize.
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### Author:  [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/52 "2008-07-13T20:38:23Z")
> [@Penfold](#):
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> I am with misteroman$$$ on the gold/silver/guns/ammo thing. It doesnt hurt to have them just in case.
i dont know about silver and gold if things were to get bad enough. id be more concerned with becoming more self sufficient… ie gardens and livestock and water.
rifle/pistol and thousands of rounds, Hand dug well, cows, corn and potatoes FTW 🙂
Brian
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/53 "2008-07-13T20:38:56Z")
> [@bing](#):
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> the friggin brown dudes with butt-tons of oil money own SCORES of north american real estate, corporations etc… it’s retarded.
>
> if that information were published i bet america goes bonkers
Wow…you are very racist arent you. All I ever see from you is either money grubbing whites, brown dudes, or those poor afro americans…and alot of anti-american bullshit. Sir…you suck.
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### Author:  [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/54 "2008-07-13T20:40:50Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> Wow…you are very racist arent you. All I ever see from you is either money grubbing whites, brown dudes, or those poor afro americans…and alot of anti-american bullshit. Sir…you suck.
I bet he hates asians too.
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/55 "2008-07-13T20:46:35Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
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> i dont know about silver and gold if things were to get bad enough. id be more concerned with becoming more self sufficient… ie gardens and livestock and water.
>
> rifle/pistol and thousands of rounds, Hand dug well, cows, corn and potatoes FTW 🙂
>
> Brian
Both of those things go hand and hand so I won’t disagree with you.I was actually going to start buying up some ammo(paying cash of course) for the guns I have.Obviously it’s almost impossible to be fully prepared for the worst and have everything ya need,so have something of value to trade for what you may need.
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/56 "2008-07-13T20:55:54Z")
> [@brent\_strong](#):
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> I bet he hates asians too.
Well yeah who doesnt? they can’t drive for shit 😛
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### Author:  [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/57 "2008-07-13T21:11:42Z")
LOL this thread sucks now I disagree that the US is on the oil standard as Fry puts it. It seems as if we are riding the wealth from the dot com craze and the industrialized times when the US was the most advanced country in the nation. Now the rest of the world has caught up when we’ve been sitting back enjoying ourselves.
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/58 "2008-07-13T21:36:17Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> Wow…you are very racist arent you. All I ever see from you is either money grubbing whites, brown dudes, or those poor afro americans…and alot of anti-american bullshit. Sir…you suck.
politely… shut up… and whatever
we are Generation Y… Racism doesnt exist, the entire concept is meaningless. I’m in an interracial marriage for fuck sake. i bragged about it on stormfront (white supremacy forum) and i’m not 100% caucasian… wrap your head around that.
describing people by the colour of their skin is just that. their skin is brown, i refer to it as such. dont try to understand please.
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> [@Fry](#):
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **The\_Russian**
> _Fucking DRILL THE FUCK OUT OF CANADA!_
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **Superium**
> _Well what percentage of our oil comes from Iran?_
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **AWDrifter**
> _How much oil do we get from Iran?_
> _Why do we get any from Iran?_
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **Just Karter**
> _I’m tired of hearing about Oil._
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **OfficerK**
> _im walking to work…screw cars._
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **forthekicks385**
> _i got a idea “DRILL HERE, DRILL RIGHT FUCKING NOW!”_
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **MOBOOST4U**
> _Shale Oil research FTW… we will hold the world at our crotch for another 100 years._
>
> No.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **misteroman$$$**
> _it’s not about the oil really,it’s about how the world is paying for oil._
> _Karter,it’s about the US dollar not oil._
>
> Yes.
>
> You guys should push aside some of the 9/11 theories he’s brought up and pay attention to bing when he talks about this. This isn’t about oil, it’s about the US dollar being on the oil standard.
>
> Quote:
> Originally Posted by **mechanicalmadness**
> _This is a really stupid question. i know oil is in everything around us. synthetic materials, plastics, electronics, whatever. What the hell are our options as far as alternatives are concerned? I dont just mean fuels and lbricants either._
>
> Unindustrialize…
fucking thank god for this guy
i’ve literally had this discussion on NYspeed a half dozen times. fuck this conspiracy badge too, i already won that arguement.
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### Author:  [@Carnut](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carnut)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/59 "2008-07-14T00:31:17Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#):
>
> this thread does shed some light on the situation for sure. On the other hand, Bing, you certainly come off as a conspiracy therorist. Especially so in the 911 threads. You back up your views with many publications, so at least you are educated on the matter. However, your views are VERY one sided, and you are VERY anti-America.
Have you ever read the papers in Canada? Do you have many Canadian friends? Canada, although across a thin border is an entirely different culture. A much more calm and collected version of the US on a whole. They look at us the way the rest of the world does. I for one plan on getting my dual citizenship so I have another option when shit hits the fan.
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### Author:  [@RedGoober4Life](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RedGoober4Life)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/60 "2008-07-14T04:39:47Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#):
>
> Both of those things go hand and hand so I won’t disagree with you.I was actually going to start buying up some ammo(paying cash of course) for the guns I have.Obviously it’s almost impossible to be fully prepared for the worst and have everything ya need,so have something of value to trade for what you may need.
Do you even want to live in that type of situation?
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