# the beginning of the end or the next big war?You choose
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**Created:** [July 13, 2008, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398 "2008-07-13T10:16:28Z")
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/61 "2008-07-14T05:32:10Z")
Lets see, oil falls, dollar gains, and the market is set to rally on news of a government plan to stabilize fanny/freddie without actually taking them over.
[http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/14/markets/oil.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071408](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/14/markets/oil.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071408)
[http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/14/markets/stockswatch/index.htm?postversion=2008071407](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/14/markets/stockswatch/index.htm?postversion=2008071407)
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stock-futures-stronger-after/story.aspx?guid={96B04EDE-C2F5-4AFE-B375-55CDA2340CAF}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stock-futures-stronger-after/story.aspx?guid=%7B96B04EDE%2DC2F5%2D4AFE%2DB375%2D55CDA2340CAF%7D)
Yep, the end is near.
That said, I have 1000 rounds of 7.62x39mm, a generator, a stockpile of water purification tablets, a fully stocked pantry of non-parishable food, a garden, plenty of fishing tackle, waterproof matches + a fire starting flint and various other disaster/survivalist stuff stashed away. I’ve always lived by the motto of “plan for the worst, hope for the best”. It’s why during the october storm we were warm, dry, well fed and kicked back watching TV. 🙂
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### Author:  [@slowtalon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowtalon)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/62 "2008-07-14T05:48:28Z")
I love how he switched up talking about how great america is and how it will get through anything, seemed like a tactic to keep americans reading. We are vain people and will give more thought into an article praising us rather then bashing our people. Fact is a war in inevitable and everyone saying we are spread thin in iraq know nothing. The fact is in Iraq we have soldiers who dont wanna be there keeping people safe not fighting a war but instead battles when they come up. If America were to get into an actuall war and used our military might to just go destroy a nation it would be over very quickly rather then pin point missle strikes taking out one building and leaving the rest of the people unharmed we could blanket intire citys and take them out in a single day. This is not a war its a popularity contest.
The problem is going to war with a nation that provides China and Russia with oil would cause a world war unless we had a way to suppliment there oil needs while shit was going on. If we were to tap our alaskan oil reserves or find a cheap way to refine the shale oil we have then we could supply the world and keep them out of any war we get into with iran otherwise they will defend there country and there need for resources.
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### Author:  [@Oroc](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oroc)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/63 "2008-07-14T06:52:15Z")
I’m moving in with derrick, do you have garage space for my iroc and bike?
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/64 "2008-07-14T07:06:57Z")
I thought Iran did this a while ago?
> [@The "Oil Prices" thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-oil-prices-thread/44739/258):
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> Oil is down below $113/barrel. It’s down like $6 from yesterday.
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> However, I’m not sure what to make of the news that Iran has stopped conducting oil trading in the USD.
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> Thoughts?
I’ll look for the article…
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/65 "2008-07-14T08:34:35Z")
> [@RedGoober4Life](#):
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> Do you even want to live in that type of situation?
LOL not at all.The question would be IF I had to live in this type of situation would I be somewhat ready.Like I stated above,I hope and pray it doesn’t but if it does I want to be somewhat prepared.
What is the worst that could happen I have a bunch of water that I could drink,A bunch of food with long shelf lives that I could eat,Or the not bullion silver that I buy that if silver went down from the $19+ it is now(yes it went up again) to $5, the coins I buy would still have their Numismatic value.And I’m not 100% sure but shotguns and such pretty much hold their value if taken care of.
Derek
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/66 "2008-07-14T08:37:47Z")
> [@Oroc](#):
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> I’m calling derrick, do you have garage space for my iroc ?
Yes I do:rx3:🤣
Derek\<— correct way
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### Author:  [@Superium](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Superium)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/67 "2008-07-14T12:05:37Z")
How reliable is this source anyways? Why don’t we hear about this on the local news or heavily on the other worldwide news stations?
The only reason I asked how much % of oil we get from Iran is because if it’s a small % why can’t we just say fuck em and go elsewhere? Then would it really matter if they switched to the Euro? Sorry for the dumb questions.
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/68 "2008-07-14T12:07:00Z")
domino effect.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/69 "2008-07-14T12:09:39Z")
eh, I’m not too concerned yet. Hopefully wont ever have to either _knock on wood_
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/70 "2008-07-14T12:20:25Z")
> [@Superium](#):
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> The only reason I asked how much % of oil we get from Iran is because if it’s a small % why can’t we just say fuck em and go elsewhere? Then would it really matter if they switched to the Euro? Sorry for the dumb questions.
See, it’s not really a question of what we’re paying for the oil (OMG WAT?), and its not a question of saying fuck them and not buying from them.
It is, quite literally, a direct attack on the USD.
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### Author:  [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/71 "2008-07-14T12:21:45Z")
> [@Nikuk](#):
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> It is, quite literally, a direct attack on the USD.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/72 "2008-07-14T12:29:33Z")
If we can hold out another month we can celebrate the 10 year anniversary of the collapse of the ruble with a reinactment. :tup:
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/73 "2008-07-14T12:30:18Z")
🤣
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/74 "2008-07-14T12:32:46Z")
Gotta laugh. If I even start to think about what all of this could mean it gets really scary: A land where Jeg’s skillset is more valuable than mine? :ohnoes:
(Just kidding buddy!)
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/75 "2008-07-14T13:16:27Z")
> [@Fry](#):
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> Gotta laugh. If I even start to think about what all of this could mean it gets really scary: A land where Jeg’s skillset is more valuable than mine? :ohnoes:
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> (Just kidding buddy!)
:lol:. Eh…I can hunt, fish, cook, purify water…I’m not too worried. I can surive if I had to.
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### Author:  [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/76 "2008-07-14T13:17:36Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> :lol:. Eh…I can hunt, fish, cook, purify water…I’m not too worried. I can surive if I had to.
:bsflag: you have a major health issue at least once a month
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/77 "2008-07-14T13:22:30Z")
yeah but im still alive arent I lol. I said I can survive…I didn’t say comfortably.
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/78 "2008-07-14T17:37:46Z")
Well. At least the stockpile of MRE’s I had sitting in the basement will be put to good use.
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### Author:  [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/79 "2008-07-14T19:25:13Z")
> [@misteroman$$$](#):
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> Both of those things go hand and hand so I won’t disagree with you.I was actually going to start buying up some ammo(paying cash of course) for the guns I have.Obviously it’s almost impossible to be fully prepared for the worst and have everything ya need,so have something of value to trade for what you may need.
i was just saying if the economy is so ridiculously lousy, no one will want gold, they’ll want the hamburger in your hand. 🙂
I have a shallow well that i can bucket water from, a wood stove and a father in law with 172 cows. 🙂
Brian
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### Author:  [@ILCisDEAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ILCisDEAD)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/80 "2008-07-14T19:28:42Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> Well. At least the stockpile of MRE’s I had sitting in the basement will be put to good use.
ugh… I hate eating those, my poo is like white clay and doesn’t flush right after that crap.
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