# the beginning of the end or the next big war?You choose
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398
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**Created:** [July 13, 2008, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398 "2008-07-13T10:16:28Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@misteroman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/misteroman)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/81 "2008-07-14T20:35:35Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#):
>
> i was just saying if the economy is so ridiculously lousy, no one will want gold, they’ll want the hamburger in your hand. 🙂
Now that I will disagree with.Yes they need to eat but They WILL want gold as well
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### Author:  [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/82 "2008-07-14T20:37:21Z")
i guess… the love of gold is strong… id rather eat. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Daddie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Daddie)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/83 "2008-07-15T04:53:35Z")
Jeg, you are … sigh
No words can express the emotions you bring out of me.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/84 "2008-07-15T05:56:14Z")
> [@Daddie](#):
>
> Jeg, you are … sigh
>
> No words can express the emotions you bring out of me.
Antsy in the pantsy?
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### Author:  [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/85 "2008-07-15T06:39:26Z")
> **[Gas Lines Coming This Fall](https://seekingalpha.com/article/84966-gas-lines-coming-this-fall?source=yahoo)**
>
> Gas lines are not hard to find. This fall, you will likely see them at your local gas station: There were spot shortages during the 2007 harvest in North
Summary
Gas lines are coming this fall based on inventory depletion. Watch World Oil Exports [WOE] and EIA’s TWIP report as leading indicators of when shortages will develop. Debt, politics, weather and unknowns are wildcards, able to create instant and very large-scale outages.
On a personal level, self-reliance is a great investment. Plant a garden. Invest in an emergency food shelter. Invest in your local community.
Permanent solutions must start immediately. A leadership call to self-reliance and Victory Gardens can have an immediate effect. Aggressively exploring alternatives will give more time to create and implement solutions. Most solutions are local. Like planting a garden, local action can create an economic lifeboat for each economic community.
We can re-tool transportation to operate with about 15% of current oil consumption. We will have to work hard for the next 15 years to accomplish this.
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### Author:  [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/86 "2008-07-15T06:47:52Z")
> [@Fry](#):
>
> Antsy in the pantsy?
I just sprayed water all over my monitor.
Thanks.
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### Author:  [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/87 "2008-07-15T07:00:24Z")
:awdrifter:
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/88 "2008-07-16T13:56:18Z")
Hmmm, or maybe nothing will happen but a recovery?
Freddie/Fannie looking better:
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/financials-rise-fannie-freddie-wells/story.aspx?guid={692F98DF-60E7-40E2-B340-7A2090407EAF}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/financials-rise-fannie-freddie-wells/story.aspx?guid=%7B692F98DF%2D60E7%2D40E2%2DB340%2D7A2090407EAF%7D)
Rate increase may be coming soon (good for dollar):
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/some-fomc-members-pushed-quick/story.aspx?guid={E9EE28C7-D4A7-48CF-9DB4-0B8C68DA5FFE}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/some-fomc-members-pushed-quick/story.aspx?guid=%7BE9EE28C7%2DD4A7%2D48CF%2D9DB4%2D0B8C68DA5FFE%7D)
Stocks rally:
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stocks-rally-major-indexes/story.aspx?guid={9B489CBB-15EC-4482-A130-F22FB4CB9B2A}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stocks-rally-major-indexes/story.aspx?guid=%7B9B489CBB%2D15EC%2D4482%2DA130%2DF22FB4CB9B2A%7D)
Oil down, market happy about it:
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-cheer-billion-dollar-losses-amr/story.aspx?guid={1BC77C94-9A12-4248-8BDF-ADDF6BE0043B}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-cheer-billion-dollar-losses-amr/story.aspx?guid=%7B1BC77C94%2D9A12%2D4248%2D8BDF%2DADDF6BE0043B%7D)
Airlines looking a little better:
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/intel-posts-25-jump-quarterly/story.aspx?guid={935660C0-FE86-4E06-B25A-97922AB5FDB4}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/intel-posts-25-jump-quarterly/story.aspx?guid=%7B935660C0%2DFE86%2D4E06%2DB25A%2D97922AB5FDB4%7D)
One for AWDTinfoilDrifter… Bad news in China:
[http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-stocks-become-worst-performers/story.aspx?guid={AD0AD23C-71C5-44DF-9B48-84241E9FAE40}](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-stocks-become-worst-performers/story.aspx?guid=%7BAD0AD23C%2D71C5%2D44DF%2D9B48%2D84241E9FAE40%7D)
Playing a little nicer with Iran:
[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/16/us.iran/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/16/us.iran/index.html)
Indymac failure may have more to do with internal fraud than the economy:
[http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac\_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616)
Now I’m not trying to claim that everything will be up up up from here on in. But you have to look at some of the positives when you’re discussing doomsday type scenarios.
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### Author:  [@j\_espo1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/j_espo1)
#### Post date: [July 16, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/89 "2008-07-16T14:17:17Z")
> [@JayS](#):
>
> Hmmm, or maybe nothing will happen but a recovery?
>
> Freddie/Fannie looking better:
> [Wells, Fannie and Freddie pace big runup - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/financials-rise-fannie-freddie-wells/story.aspx?guid=%7B692F98DF%2D60E7%2D40E2%2DB340%2D7A2090407EAF%7D)
>
> Rate increase may be coming soon (good for dollar):
> [Some on Fed want rate hikes 'very soon' - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/some-fomc-members-pushed-quick/story.aspx?guid=%7BE9EE28C7%2DD4A7%2D48CF%2D9DB4%2D0B8C68DA5FFE%7D)
>
> Stocks rally:
> [U.S. stock indexes reach higher as crude slides - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stocks-rally-major-indexes/story.aspx?guid=%7B9B489CBB%2D15EC%2D4482%2DA130%2DF22FB4CB9B2A%7D)
>
> Oil down, market happy about it:
> [Delta, AMR swing to quarterly losses as fuel soars - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-cheer-billion-dollar-losses-amr/story.aspx?guid=%7B1BC77C94%2D9A12%2D4248%2D8BDF%2DADDF6BE0043B%7D)
>
> Airlines looking a little better:
> [Intel rises on 25% profit jump, upbeat outlook - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/intel-posts-25-jump-quarterly/story.aspx?guid=%7B935660C0%2DFE86%2D4E06%2DB25A%2D97922AB5FDB4%7D)
>
> One for AWDTinfoilDrifter… Bad news in China:
> [China's stocks are world's worst performers - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-stocks-become-worst-performers/story.aspx?guid=%7BAD0AD23C%2D71C5%2D44DF%2D9B48%2D84241E9FAE40%7D)
>
> Playing a little nicer with Iran:
> [U.S. reverses course, will send envoy to talks with Iran - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/16/us.iran/index.html)
>
> Indymac failure may have more to do with internal fraud than the economy:
> [http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac\_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616)
>
> Now I’m not trying to claim that everything will be up up up from here on in. But you have to look at some of the positives when you’re discussing doomsday type scenarios.
WOW STRONG POST.
:bigclap:
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### Author:  [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)
#### Post date: [August 18, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/90 "2008-08-18T20:09:32Z")
> [@bing](#):
>
> the friggin brown dudes with butt-tons of oil money own SCORES of north american real estate, corporations etc… it’s retarded.
>
> if that information were published i bet america goes bonkers
[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1832861,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1832861,00.html)
heeeeyyy… bringing back dead threads…
so it is being published now, and i guess i will be wrong becuase no one will do anything about it.
your country is for sale bitches… i can laugh because my country was bought and sold long ago.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/91 "2008-08-19T06:16:39Z")
> [@JayS](#):
>
> Hmmm, or maybe nothing will happen but a recovery?
>
> Freddie/Fannie looking better:
> [Wells, Fannie and Freddie pace big runup - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/financials-rise-fannie-freddie-wells/story.aspx?guid=%7B692F98DF%2D60E7%2D40E2%2DB340%2D7A2090407EAF%7D)
>
> Rate increase may be coming soon (good for dollar):
> [Some on Fed want rate hikes 'very soon' - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/some-fomc-members-pushed-quick/story.aspx?guid=%7BE9EE28C7%2DD4A7%2D48CF%2D9DB4%2D0B8C68DA5FFE%7D)
>
> Stocks rally:
> [U.S. stock indexes reach higher as crude slides - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/us-stocks-rally-major-indexes/story.aspx?guid=%7B9B489CBB%2D15EC%2D4482%2DA130%2DF22FB4CB9B2A%7D)
>
> Oil down, market happy about it:
> [Delta, AMR swing to quarterly losses as fuel soars - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/investors-cheer-billion-dollar-losses-amr/story.aspx?guid=%7B1BC77C94%2D9A12%2D4248%2D8BDF%2DADDF6BE0043B%7D)
>
> Airlines looking a little better:
> [Intel rises on 25% profit jump, upbeat outlook - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/intel-posts-25-jump-quarterly/story.aspx?guid=%7B935660C0%2DFE86%2D4E06%2DB25A%2D97922AB5FDB4%7D)
>
> One for AWDTinfoilDrifter… Bad news in China:
> [China's stocks are world's worst performers - MarketWatch](http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/chinese-stocks-become-worst-performers/story.aspx?guid=%7BAD0AD23C%2D71C5%2D44DF%2D9B48%2D84241E9FAE40%7D)
>
> Playing a little nicer with Iran:
> [U.S. reverses course, will send envoy to talks with Iran - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/16/us.iran/index.html)
>
> Indymac failure may have more to do with internal fraud than the economy:
> [http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac\_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616](http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/16/news/companies/indymac_FBI.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008071616)
>
> Now I’m not trying to claim that everything will be up up up from here on in. But you have to look at some of the positives when you’re discussing doomsday type scenarios.
:bigclap:
China is hurting a bit but they still scare me. Never let your guard down.:tinfoilhat:
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2008, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/92 "2008-08-19T06:19:22Z")
> [@bing](#):
>
> [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1832861,00.html](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1832861,00.html)
>
> heeeeyyy… bringing back dead threads…
>
> so it is being published now, and i guess i will be wrong becuase no one will do anything about it.
>
> your country is for sale bitches… i can laugh because my country was bought and sold long ago.
Are you really surprised by the apathy Bing?
and, lol. canadia.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/93 "2008-08-19T09:24:03Z")
I just saw this and was reminded of this thread:
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### Author:  [@MOBOOST4U](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MOBOOST4U)
#### Post date: [August 19, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-beginning-of-the-end-or-the-next-big-war-you-choose/51398/94 "2008-08-19T09:28:56Z")
> [@theblue](#):
>
> I just saw this and was reminded of this thread:
buawhahahahahahah… that cant be real
That is effin amazing ahahahah
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