# The best driving simulator
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [November 21, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092 "2004-11-21T17:51:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@\_M3\_SPb](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_M3_SPb)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/1 "2004-11-21T17:51:07Z")
I am looking to get a very good driving simultor.
I’ve played GT2, GT3, LFS, F12002. I’ve heard of RARS but never played it.
The criteria that i need in this simulator are:
- physics engine (as close to real thing as possible)
- a lot of good tracks, not necceceraly real ones, but good and different ones.
- Suspension tunning, I’d like more to play with more variables then ride height.
- Graphics don’t matter to a certain extend, but don’t want to be racing boxes.
- Console or PC don’t matter, if its good enough i’ll pay for it.
Since i’ve never played any of the above games with a wheel what do you thing is THE best racing sim. Don’t forget about FORZA and GT4 coming soon.
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### Author:  [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/2 "2004-11-21T17:55:56Z")
For my personal preference I liked “NFS: Porsche Unleashed”, just because the engines sound so great.
But as far as sims go, all around, probably the Gran Turismo series…
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### Author:  [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/3 "2004-11-21T18:02:11Z")
LFS is top for PCs.
GT3 (GT4 soon) for PS2.
Project Gotham 2, altho it’s arcadey, for Xbox.
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### Author:  [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/4 "2004-11-21T18:29:46Z")
ya the GT series is th closest you will find, gotham isnt really a sim
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### Author:  [@cr240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cr240sx)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/5 "2004-11-21T20:21:25Z")
Just wait till december 14th and pickup gran turismo 4. if you want it to be an even better simulator get the GT4 force feedback steering wheel. 😉 ($199.00)
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### Author:  [@Racer\_XTREME](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Racer_XTREME)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/6 "2004-11-21T20:30:02Z")
Gran turismo´s full name : “Gran Turismo, the real driving simulator.”
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### Author:  [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/7 "2004-11-21T20:32:40Z")
Damn $200 for the steering wheel… and I have the perfect setup for it…
But I so want parts for the silvia…
☹
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### Author:  [@\_M3\_SPb](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_M3_SPb)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/8 "2004-11-21T21:30:09Z")
> [@cr240sx](#):
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> Just wait till december 14th and pickup gran turismo 4. if you want it to be an even better simulator get the GT4 force feedback steering wheel. 😉 ($199.00)
That’s what i am probably going to do, exept its delayed untill first quarter of 2005. I will buy that wheel now and play LFS (since you can use on PC as well). I was just wondering if there are any very good sims that i didn’t know of.
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### Author:  [@trigger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/trigger)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/9 "2004-11-21T23:39:06Z")
lfs is wicked… tons of people were playing it online before you had to purchase it…
need for speed is arcady but fun
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### Author:  [@cr240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cr240sx)
#### Post date: [November 21, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/10 "2004-11-21T23:44:35Z")
> [@///M3\_SPb](#):
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> [quote=cr240sx]Just wait till december 14th and pickup gran turismo 4. if you want it to be an even better simulator get the GT4 force feedback steering wheel. 😉 ($199.00)
That’s what i am probably going to do, exept its delayed untill first quarter of 2005. I will buy that wheel now and play LFS (since you can use on PC as well). I was just wondering if there are any very good sims that i didn’t know of.[/quote]
are you shitting me??? dammit, I paid for that game in october 2003 and have been waiting eagerly ever since. jan 04, may 04, july 04, oct 04, dec 04, now 05’!!! I hope it will be flawless after so many years spent on it since gt3 was released. the screenshots ive seen so far look like photographs.
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### Author:  [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/11 "2004-11-22T06:02:49Z")
Wow that sucks, this is why I never pre-order games.
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### Author:  [@japaneseimports.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/japaneseimports.ca)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/12 "2004-11-22T08:36:19Z")
Don’t any of you have a mod chip?
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### Author:  [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/13 "2004-11-22T08:38:07Z")
My PlayStation does, but the PS2 is a bit trickier, I’ve got a DVD burner though so maybe I should get it done…
My only “fear” is they will start doing the same thing they did to the PS-One games where they made games that could detect the chip and not run.
I’m debating chipping it though for some of the drifting games that they won’t release here.
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### Author:  [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/14 "2004-11-22T11:36:01Z")
> [@japaneseimports.ca](#):
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> Don’t any of you have a mod chip?
:wavey:
i ahve it, last week pcied up Metal gear solid and underground 2, week befrore got san andreas, i love its a lot better than paying 80 for a game, they stick it to you ahrcore for those games
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### Author:  [@cr240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cr240sx)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/15 "2004-11-22T11:40:03Z")
for psx I had a really cool chip, it was just a gameshark that clipped on the back of the original psx’s that would suspend everything after the playstation does its check for a regular game, then it let you swap the discs and play your burnt game, it was really something, only cost me 20 bucks plus I could bring it to my friends houses or whatever. If anyone knows where to get these for ps2 (I heard of one called Magic Swap now) let me know.
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### Author:  [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/16 "2004-11-22T12:18:23Z")
you dont need gameshark for the new chips, there all direct boot, and mine has had no problems, accpet the dvd player doesnt always work, but idont need it as a dvd palyer anyway so that dont bother me
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### Author:  [@cr240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cr240sx)
#### Post date: [November 22, 2004, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-best-driving-simulator/82092/17 "2004-11-22T13:50:50Z")
I know the chips dont need gamesharks, but the one I had was a gameshark with the chip in it so you didnt have to take apart your playstation at all, just externally plug in this and play…