# The Current State of Shift518 **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [August 15, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-current-state-of-shift518/264739 "2012-08-15T18:39:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 46
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-current-state-of-shift518/264739/46 "2012-08-16T13:25:09Z")
> [@Dethklok \> \*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/dethklok/50383/26): > > Just fro the sake of rational argument when was the serve taken out of Singh’s control, because technically while he hosted it even though he Vlad would be considered a client the forum would be considered Singhs property wouldn’t it? Simply because it was on his server and that would give him the right to do whatever he wanted with it… Now that wouldn’t exactly make him a good business man or whatever for fucking with it but I’m just saying technichally I believe the server move was in mid-early July. Although the forum was on Singh’s server, it was still on a server Vlad paid Singh for, and that Singh “sub-leased” out to other people. To put it in perspective, it’s similar to a bank taking money out of your account for their other use and your account balance shrinks. It’s a form of extortion. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-current-state-of-shift518/264739)._