# The E30 GTR.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177>\
**Category:** Classifieds\
**Created:** [September 25, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177 "2012-09-25T10:28:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/41 "2012-10-01T09:49:08Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> I think it’s time to turn up the boost and get some real numbers out of this setup to make the haters shut their mouths. They do have a bit of a point that all of this for 400whp is a waste.

The thing is, 400 whp in a 2600lb car is not a waste. It’s totally awesome. We’re just desensitized because of so many 1000 hp cars that we see posted all over that none of us actually own.

This car was faster than a Ford GT and a Lambo Superlegerra (sic)… plenty fast.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/42 "2012-10-01T09:52:19Z")

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I agree that 400whp is nothing to shake a stick at. And with being able to do a 1200 mile road trip, that’s awesome.

I’ve never owned a high-hp car though.

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**Author:** ![TsiTalon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tsitalon/32/5012_2.png) [@TsiTalon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TsiTalon)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/43 "2012-10-01T09:53:25Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> The thing is, 400 whp in a 2600lb car is not a waste. It’s totally awesome. We’re just desensitized because of so many 1000 hp cars that we see posted all over that none of us actually own.
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> This car was faster than a Ford GT and a Lambo Superlegerra (sic)… plenty fast.

+1

and you can trust me, I own a modded civic si. It has an intake.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/44 "2012-10-01T09:57:19Z")

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it’s not a waste in that the car is not fun, it’s a waste in that you could have put a turbo on the stock motor or an M50 and got this power for a lot less money.

perhaps waste is the wrong word, over-engineered is probably better.

still a cool project not matter how you cut it.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/45 "2012-10-01T10:07:25Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> over-engineered is probably better.

Because Newman…

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/46 "2012-10-01T10:13:32Z")

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now I’m curious about if he put some race gas in and put down 650whp if people would change opinion on the jalop poll and like it and consider it a value.

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/47 "2012-10-01T10:25:40Z")

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I know. I should do a race gas dyno just to shut people up.

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**Author:** ![Mike93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike93/32/7325_2.png) [@Mike93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mike93)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/48 "2012-10-01T10:31:06Z")

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More info about faster than Ford GT/Lambo claim, please!

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/49 "2012-10-01T10:48:30Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> I know. I should do a race gas dyno just to shut people up.

+1

I get that you’re happy with 400WHP in a light car but part of you has to admit this project was to make something a little ridiculous and 400HP just isn’t ridiculous anymore. Fun to drive or not the project just doesn’t feel complete to me until it puts up a big dyno number. Then again, it’s your car and if you’re happy… :shrug:

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**Author:** ![neonglh](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neonglh/32/4951_2.png) [@neonglh](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonglh)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/50 "2012-10-01T10:53:31Z")

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What’s the weak point in the system currently? It sounds like the clutch is currently, but beyond that, can the motor and trans hold up to gobs of power?

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**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/51 "2012-10-01T10:59:21Z")

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> [@newman](#):
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> The thing is, 400 whp in a 2600lb car is not a waste. It’s totally awesome. We’re just desensitized because of so many 1000 hp cars that we see posted all over that none of us actually own.

One of the truest things you’ve said on here…

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/52 "2012-10-01T11:04:00Z")

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Weak point is probably the dif/axles. Factory E30 M3 LSD…

Motor is solid and so is the trans. Clutch does need to be replaced for sure.

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**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/53 "2012-10-01T11:13:12Z")

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How many miles have you put on it total?

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**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/54 "2012-10-01T11:21:07Z")

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5000

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**Author:** ![Jimshorts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimshorts/32/5915_2.png) [@Jimshorts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimshorts)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/55 "2012-10-01T11:34:09Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> +1
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> I get that you’re happy with 400WHP in a light car but part of you has to admit this project was to make something a little ridiculous and 400HP just isn’t ridiculous anymore. Fun to drive or not the project just doesn’t feel complete to me until it puts up a big dyno number. Then again, it’s your car and if you’re happy… :shrug:

This car put down 500whp on a mustang dyno. That would be close to 550whp on a dyno jet. Plently of HP for a street car.

With a different paint job i could see this thing going for asking price. I feel like its a little too customized for someone to drop 30k on it. lol i get it though.

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**Author:** ![Coldaccord](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/coldaccord/32/7272_2.png) [@Coldaccord](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Coldaccord)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/56 "2012-10-01T12:10:13Z")

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you’re welcome to my lift on a saturday or sunday if you want to do the clutch

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/57 "2012-10-01T12:13:02Z")

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> [@Jimshorts](#):
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> This car put down 500whp on a mustang dyno. That would be close to 550whp on a dyno jet. Plently of HP for a street car.
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> With a different paint job i could see this thing going for asking price. I feel like its a little too customized for someone to drop 30k on it. lol i get it though.

That’s getting more into ridiculous territory, especially in a 2600lb car. Agreed on the paint. It probably would be in a bidding war if had flat black paint with black rims.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/58 "2012-10-01T12:15:47Z")

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if it put down 500, why is advertised at 400?

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**Author:** ![Jimshorts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimshorts/32/5915_2.png) [@Jimshorts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimshorts)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/59 "2012-10-01T12:20:25Z")

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> [@theblue](#):
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> if it put down 500, why is advertised at 400?

I havent read all the links but I knew it was about 500whp.

Directly from his ebay link.  
“About the car.  
There is a whole blog about the buildup of the car which can be found here: [http://newman.onyxsyndicate.com/e30gtr/e30gtr\_00.htm](http://newman.onyxsyndicate.com/e30gtr/e30gtr_00.htm)  
The car was featured on [Jalopnik.com](http://Jalopnik.com) as well as in print from S3 magazine (I have some copies if you want them)  
No expense was spared. I have about $45,000 invested in the car, really… plus 4 years of my time.  
The car saw 500hp/400ft-lb on a MUSTANG dyno.”

That vid of him getting some quick pulls with a ford GT and lambo are on here somewhere. This car can haul!

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-e30-gtr/226177/60 "2012-10-01T12:24:16Z")

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the jalop article saying it’s at 400whp threw me off. you’re not getting 500whp from a stock M50 + turbo for long so that makes this worth a good bit more and negates many of the comments.

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