# The End of iTunes? **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [October 1, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771 "2008-10-01T09:39:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/1 "2008-10-01T09:39:07Z")
[http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/technology/itunesthreat.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008093014](http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/30/technology/itunesthreat.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008093014) Interesting play right now. Thursday there is a vote to raise royalties from 9 cents a song to 15 cents. Apple said they would rather shut down than raise their price of songs to make up the change. Could be interesting. iTunes is the new wave for artists to get their music out to the world so if iTunes does in fact shut down, it takes a large amount of profit with it. ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/2 "2008-10-01T09:41:18Z")
They spend a ton on advertising, etc. but I wonder what their profit margin is with the 9cent royalty? I bet it is still ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/3 "2008-10-01T09:41:41Z")
didn’t read it…cliffs? I smell bluff ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/4 "2008-10-01T09:45:45Z")
Copyright holders of music want .15 per song rather than .09 per. Apple says they can’t raise iTunes prices without losing sales and won’t take the hit themselves, since it’d likely make the music store unprofitable. They need to come to an agreement otherwise iTunes music store could potentially close down. (It won’t close, they’ll hammer something out) ---
**Author:** ![Jagermeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f19dbf/32.png) [@Jagermeister](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jagermeister)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/5 "2008-10-01T09:53:14Z")
Maybe they are just trying to get a piece of the $700 billion buyout… ---
**Author:** ![A.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@A.J](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/A.J)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/6 "2008-10-01T09:56:57Z")
eh its not that big of deal, UK itunes prices are higher and they bitch about them when they see the U.S. prices. So the prices will just even them out ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/7 "2008-10-01T10:17:57Z")
Do they still use DRM on their music? ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/8 "2008-10-01T10:20:47Z")
![http://www.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/internetcelebrities.jpg](http://www.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/internetcelebrities.jpg) they need to go to the department of internet money and get their cut. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/9 "2008-10-01T10:22:42Z")
> [@Spam16v](#): > > they need to go to the department of internet money and get their cut. :lol: tron guy rules ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/10 "2008-10-01T10:26:28Z")
it’s just the market adjusting… ---
**Author:** ![fourseasonsandles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/90ced4/32.png) [@fourseasonsandles](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fourseasonsandles)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/11 "2008-10-01T10:36:10Z")
I could care less if they shut down the store. As long as itunes program still runs, I dont have a problem with it. ---
**Author:** ![JustinH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9fc29f/32.png) [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/12 "2008-10-01T10:47:32Z")
seriously, i have not spent one cent in the itunes store, I just use it for podcasts. 99 cents for a song is bullshit, I would rather buy a cd at a live show than buy it online… ---
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/13 "2008-10-01T10:51:37Z")
profits from itunes keep the cost of ipods down. they dont make any money on ipods. ---
**Author:** ![pirite](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pirite/32/5308_2.png) [@pirite](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pirite)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/14 "2008-10-01T11:01:55Z")
> [@evolve](#): > > profits from itunes keep the cost of ipods down. they dont make any money on ipods. its true. everyplace pretty much sells them at cost. maybe a bit more. but they make virtually no money on them. ---
**Author:** ![BluBalls](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bluballs/32/7212_2.png) [@BluBalls](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BluBalls)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/15 "2008-10-01T11:08:21Z")
cliffs: currently getting .09 per song, asking for 66% more(.15), will end up making 0.00. ---
**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/16 "2008-10-01T11:13:51Z")
> [@BluBalls](#): > > cliffs: currently getting .09 per song, asking for 66% more(.15), will end up making 0.00. Haha pretty much. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/17 "2008-10-01T11:15:05Z")
lol sounds a lot like the american auto industry ---
**Author:** ![Vile](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vile/32/7595_2.png) [@Vile](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vile)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/18 "2008-10-01T12:40:24Z")
/shrug … best buy bought napster… maybe my stock will go up 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/19 "2008-10-01T13:04:40Z")
> Apple pays an estimated 70 cents of every dollar it collects per song to the record companies responsible for each track. The record companies turn over nine cents to the music publishers who control the copyrights to these tunes. Pretty easy to see who should be absorbing the difference when you read that part. $0.70 of your $0.99 is going to the record company, who in turn only give $0.09 to the copyright holder. Hmm, $0.64 for the record company and $0.15 to the copyright holder still sounds more than fair to me. To be honest, it still sounds like the artist is getting fucked by the record company. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771/20 "2008-10-01T13:04:55Z")
> Apple pays an estimated 70 cents of every dollar it collects per song to the record companies responsible for each track. The record companies turn over nine cents to the music publishers who control the copyrights to these tunes. Pretty easy to see who should be absorbing the difference when you read that part. $0.70 of your $0.99 is going to the record company, who in turn only give $0.09 to the copyright holder. Hmm, $0.64 for the record company and $0.15 to the copyright holder still sounds more than fair to me. To be honest, it still sounds like the artist is getting fucked by the record company. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-end-of-itunes/55771.md?page=2)