# The "flawless" GT-R has a flaw! Oh noes! **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434 "2008-08-19T18:38:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/1 "2008-08-19T18:38:33Z")
GT-R’s tranny a weak link? > One of my techs just got back from a special Nissan training GTR deal. Here are some interesting Facts. > -Can only launch the car 15 times before the transmission gives out. The most Nissan has got was 34 launches. > -The fluid lists at 80 dollars a quart. It costs dealerships 49.99 a quart. The car takes 10 quarts. > -The warranty depends on the driving, there is a black box in it just like an airplane. > -Customers have to sign a waiver stating they will not complain about brake or transmission noise. > -The brakes MUST be replaced at the same time, cost for replacing 6500. > -If something goes wrong other than an oil change at the dealership, a special team needs to be called and your outta a car for a while. [http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/360385-backing-up-tms-on-this-one-about-the-gtr](http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/360385-backing-up-tms-on-this-one-about-the-gtr) [http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4464/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-fault/](http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4464/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-fault/) [http://streetimportonline.com/sio/nissan-gt-r-gearbox-problems.html](http://streetimportonline.com/sio/nissan-gt-r-gearbox-problems.html) Discuss. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/2 "2008-08-19T18:44:45Z")
I would love to hear if any of this is true from a real GT-R owner. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/3 "2008-08-19T18:45:37Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > I would love to hear if any of this is true from a real GT-R owner. Doesn’t someone on here know that guy with the silver GT-R? Maybe he can ask him and confirm some of this. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/4 "2008-08-19T18:49:42Z")
Also…look up the factory warranty…it has another flaw! It stats, that if something brakes while the Traction control is on…your warrenty will be voided, and the part/parts that broke…wont be covered…dont believe me, look it up…if you ask me, thats pretty damn shitty for a 90k+ car. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/5 "2008-08-19T18:51:05Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > Also…look up the factory warranty…it has another flaw! > > It stats, that if something brakes while the Traction control is on…your warrenty will be voided, and the part/parts that broke…wont be covered…dont believe me, look it up…if you ask me, thats pretty damn shitty for a 90k+ car. do you mean while traction control is off? It should msrp for ~70k as well. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/6 "2008-08-19T18:52:28Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > do you mean while traction control is off? It should msrp for ~70k as well. nope, traction control is on… I guess the car cant handle the power when the TC is on, and tends to break shit…do a search…I will look it up and see if I could find it again…their was a huge debat about it on my fquick site…give me a few. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/7 "2008-08-19T18:53:03Z")
> [@chris88z24](#): > > GT-R’s tranny a weak link? > > [http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/360385-backing-up-tms-on-this-one-about-the-gtr](http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/360385-backing-up-tms-on-this-one-about-the-gtr) > > [http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4464/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-fault/](http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4464/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-fault/) > > [http://streetimportonline.com/sio/nissan-gt-r-gearbox-problems.html](http://streetimportonline.com/sio/nissan-gt-r-gearbox-problems.html) > > Discuss. So, this is on top of the flaw that it’s slow as shit for 80k? ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/8 "2008-08-19T18:53:58Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > nope, traction control is on… > > I guess the car cant handle the power when the TC is on, and tends to break shit…do a search…I will look it up and see if I could find it again…their was a huge debat about it on my fquick site…give me a few. Weird, I thought it was on unless you wanted it to be off at the track or something. It seems like it would be a given to warranty that. ---
**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/9 "2008-08-19T18:54:25Z")
Ive never heard of such simple things costing that much. What kind of tranny fluid can possibly be that much? ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/10 "2008-08-19T18:55:15Z")
> [@TurboTravis](#): > > So, this is on top of the flaw that it’s slow as shit for 80k? Can you explain how it is slow as shit? ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/11 "2008-08-19T18:56:15Z")
here it is…all the info. on it. 4th article down…LAME is right. [http://www.fquick.com/blog/sort.php?keyword=gt-r](http://www.fquick.com/blog/sort.php?keyword=gt-r) “Talk about lame. Know that factory launch control feature they touted around, using it to make screaming fast laps? If you use it on your own personal GT-R, it’ll void your warranty. And a black box installed in each GT-R will record you using it. What else voids it? Racing it. I mean, this car was built for speed-limit crusing Sundays, right?” theirs a copy of the factory warranty…expand it, and read it. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/12 "2008-08-19T19:04:59Z")
That isn’t traction control it is VDC. Turning it off allows burnouts, engages launch control, etc. Still lame as well as the GPS thing that senses where race tracks are :wtf ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/13 "2008-08-19T19:06:14Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > That isn’t traction control it is VDC. Turning it off allows burnouts, engages launch control, etc. Still lame as well as the GPS thing that senses where race tracks are :wtf pretty much traction control if you ask me?..its basically the same thing in my SS, only not as high tech. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/14 "2008-08-19T19:09:51Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > pretty much traction control if you ask me?..its basically the same thing in my SS, only not as high tech. I meant that it isn’t turning traction control on… it is turning it off sorry. It turns launch control on. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/15 "2008-08-19T19:11:32Z")
I think the whole black box deal is really retarded. > [@TurboTravis](#): > > So, this is on top of the flaw that it’s slow as shit for 80k? you have to remember, not everyone likes just racing in a straight line. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/16 "2008-08-19T19:12:36Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > I meant that it isn’t turning traction control on… it is turning it off sorry. It turns launch control on. regardless, its still shitty…and IMO, it will turn away a ton of people that wanted to buy the car, and most likely will steer them in the ZR-1 direction…it kinda defeats the purpose of making it a “race ready, performance car” when you cant perform with it to its full potential without voiding the warranty…its BS…If I were to spend that type of money on a car, Im damn well gonna drive it how it was made to be driven…the GT-R keeps you from doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/17 "2008-08-19T19:13:58Z")
I just can’t see GM doing any b.s. like that with the ZR-1. If it breaks, they will warranty it. End of story. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/18 "2008-08-19T19:15:32Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > regardless, its still shitty…and IMO, it will turn away a ton of people that wanted to buy the car, and most likely will steer them in the ZR-1 direction…it kinda defeats the purpose of making it a “race ready, performance car” when you cant perform with it without voiding the warranty…its BS. This is true… but not everyone who buys one cares about the warranty. Oh well… maybe Nissan will fix the problems if they get enough complaints. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/19 "2008-08-19T19:17:10Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > This is true… but not everyone who buys one cares about the warranty. Oh well… maybe Nissan will fix the problems if they get enough complaints. I was just about to say that, most people don’t really care about the warranty. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/20 "2008-08-19T19:20:17Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > I was just about to say that, most people don’t really care about the warranty. I don’t know about you but if I bought that car and the tranny dropped after a year and they denied me a warranty claim, I would be FURIOUS. It doesn’t matter how much money the car cost or how much money the owner has, that isn’t the point. The point is Nissan isn’t standing behind their product. And it’s a damn shame. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434.md?page=2)