# The "flawless" GT-R has a flaw! Oh noes! **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [August 19, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434 "2008-08-19T18:38:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/21 "2008-08-19T19:21:29Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > I think the whole black box deal is really retarded. > > you have to remember, not everyone likes just racing in a straight line. :rofl Having only read review I believe the GTR’s shining feature is it’s insane straight line performance for the cash. [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/8/9/891f1eeb3894e29e6b20687cd4dd7798201ae19f.jpeg "Nissan GTR vs Evo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ZasgLw17Y) Stock. ---
**Author:** ![TurboTravis](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/turbotravis/32/6406_2.png) [@TurboTravis](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTravis)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/22 "2008-08-19T19:22:06Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Can you explain how it is slow as shit? Because it runs 118 in the 1/4 mile for 80K. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/23 "2008-08-19T19:22:26Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > I was just about to say that, most people don’t really care about the warranty. uh, what? Interview people who own 70k+ cars, and ask them if something broke on their car and they dropped the warranty for it, what they would do…pretty sure 9/10 of the car owners would be PISSED. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/24 "2008-08-19T19:23:05Z")
> [@TurboTravis](#): > > Because it runs 118 in the 1/4 mile for 80K. Mid to low 11s @ 120 ish is a better deal than 90% other production cars capable of the same ET. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/25 "2008-08-19T19:25:25Z")
> [@chris88z24](#): > > I don’t know about you but if I bought that car and the tranny dropped after a year and they denied me a warranty claim, I would be FURIOUS. It doesn’t matter how much money the car cost or how much money the owner has, that isn’t the point. The point is Nissan isn’t standing behind their product. And it’s a damn shame. OK, so say they let you know about the tranny defect or you read about it and ask before you buy it and they say “Yes, if the tranny shits the bed, warranty is voided” or whatever. I’m sure if you had the money to throw around (as most potential buyers of this car will most likely) you wouldn’t really care and would buy it anyways. > [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > uh, what? Interview people who own 70k+ cars, and ask them if something broke on their car and they dropped the warranty for it, what they would do…pretty sure 9/10 of the car owners would be PISSED. I’m not going to interview anyone, so relax. If you were an enthusiast and really wanted the GT-R to track it or actually drive it like a car is meant for, i’m sure you wouldn’t really care. And most people who own $70k+ new cars are rich, don’t know shit about cars, and are older people who don’t want to do work on their own car. ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/26 "2008-08-19T19:25:33Z")
So the oil change costs a few hundred, brake work is a few Gs, and a new set of rims and tires are close to five figures… You mean to tell me there are people out there buying this car that are depending on the warranty to be able to afford it…? :🙂 Launch control is kinda gimmicky (to me), to me it doesn’t take a whole lot away from the GT-R if you don’t launch it like mad all the time. Heck, IMO full out drag launches would probably get boring after the first few times, but accelerating, turning, and stopping unlike anything else that weighs two tons… Might take a bit longer to get sick of ;D. I could see though how on the principle that if it’s factory installed it should be able to withstand abuse- this is a letdown… ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/27 "2008-08-19T19:28:01Z")
> [@TurboTravis](#): > > Because it runs 118 in the 1/4 mile for 80K. Not sure how that makes it slow… as the video shows it running a mid 11. Not bad for a stock car. Faster than most cars 2x or more the price. > [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > uh, what? Interview people who own 70k+ cars, and ask them if something broke on their car and they dropped the warranty for it, what they would do…pretty sure 9/10 of the car owners would be PISSED. The point is, MOST people who buy them, just have it to have it. Know what I mean? They might own the dealership, or just have the car because it is cool. The majority of people who buy it won’t be racing it every weekend, but will have it as a sunny day car. They will get the scheduled maintenance done and that is that. Of course they are going to be mad if something breaks, but nothing will break because they won’t be pushing the car… so the warranty won’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/28 "2008-08-19T19:29:59Z")
> [@OsoiNA6](#): > > So the oil change costs a few hundred, brake work is a few Gs, and a new set of rims and tires are close to five figures… > > You mean to tell me there are people out there buying this car that are depending on the warranty to be able to afford it…? :🙂 > > Launch control is kinda gimmicky (to me), to me it doesn’t take a whole lot away from the GT-R if you don’t launch it like mad all the time. Heck, IMO full out drag launches would probably get boring after the first few times, but accelerating, turning, and stopping unlike anything else that weighs two tons… Might take a bit longer to get sick of ;D. > > I could see though how on the principle that if it’s factory installed it should be able to withstand abuse- this is a letdown… not saying that anything with the warranty has anything to do with affording the car…just stating that Warranty’s SELL cars…and in this case, this will be a let down to alot of potential GT-R owners. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/29 "2008-08-19T19:30:09Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Not sure how that makes it slow… as the video shows it running a mid 11. Not bad for a stock car. Faster than most cars 2x or more the price. > The point is, MOST people who buy them, just have it to have it. Know what I mean? They might own the dealership, or just have the car because it is cool. The majority of people who buy it won’t be racing it every weekend, but will have it as a sunny day car. They will get the scheduled maintenance done and that is that. Of course they are going to be mad if something breaks, but nothing will break because they won’t be pushing the car… so the warranty won’t matter. for well over 80 grand i could build a car that would smoke that in the quarter and handle like it was on a rail overpriced piece of shit in my book ---
**Author:** ![SSmokinn\_SS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@SSmokinn\_SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SSmokinn_SS)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/30 "2008-08-19T19:31:31Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Not sure how that makes it slow… as the video shows it running a mid 11. Not bad for a stock car. Faster than most cars 2x or more the price. > The point is, MOST people who buy them, just have it to have it. Know what I mean? They might own the dealership, or just have the car because it is cool. The majority of people who buy it won’t be racing it every weekend, but will have it as a sunny day car. They will get the scheduled maintenance done and that is that. Of course they are going to be mad if something breaks, but nothing will break because they won’t be pushing the car… so the warranty won’t matter. true…guess im just referring the to the way it should be driven, which would void the warranty. ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/31 "2008-08-19T19:32:10Z")
> [@88slowmarro](#): > > for well over 80 grand i could build a car that would smoke that in the quarter and handle like it was on a rail overpriced piece of shit in my book I know, you could probably do so for 30 grand or less. That isn’t really the point. People who want the GT-R will buy it, people who don’t, including myself, wont. > [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > true…guess im just referring the to the way it should be driven, which would void the warranty. haha, I know… lame. Luckily GM is in so much trouble that they practically have to warranty everything to keep product moving :mwahaha ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/32 "2008-08-19T19:32:54Z")
> [@K20powerz](#): > > OK, so say they let you know about the tranny defect or you read about it and ask before you buy it and they say “Yes, if the tranny shits the bed, warranty is voided” or whatever. I’m sure if you had the money to throw around (as most potential buyers of this car will most likely) you wouldn’t really care and would buy it anyways. > > I’m not going to interview anyone, so relax. > > If you were an enthusiast and really wanted the GT-R to track it or actually drive it like a car is meant for, i’m sure you wouldn’t really care. **And most people who own $70k+ new cars are rich, don’t know shit about cars, and are older people who don’t want to do work on their own car.** OK, so let’s put you in that position for a minute. You don’t know shit about cars, are rich, and don’t do any work whatsoever on your car. What if you are out one day, giving your golf buddy or someone a ride, and decide to try out the launch control mode? You set it up, take off, and BOOM! There goes your transmission. Have the car towed to the dealer, and they tell you that your warranty is void and you will have to pay roughly 1/8 the cost of the vehicle to have the car fixed. There is no way in hell that you can sit there and say that you wouldn’t be pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/33 "2008-08-19T19:34:46Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > I know, you could probably do so for 30 grand or less. That isn’t really the point. People who want the GT-R will buy it, people who don’t, including myself, wont.haha, I know… lame. Luckily GM is in so much trouble that they practically have to warranty everything to keep product moving :mwahaha understadable i guess i just dont get all hard over supercars …would i drive one if given the keys ?fuckin a right and i prolly break it …but im content with my domestics ---
**Author:** ![LKSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lksi/32/6316_2.png) [@LKSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LKSi)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/34 "2008-08-19T19:35:35Z")
> [@88slowmarro](#): > > understadable i guess i just dont get all hard over supercars …would i drive one if given the keys ?fuckin a right and i prolly break it …but im content with my domestics I’m with you… just replace domestics with anything haha ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/35 "2008-08-19T19:37:16Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > I’m with you… just replace domestics with anything haha i wouldnt drive just anything :ponder i just prefer the cars associated with mullets :lol ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/36 "2008-08-19T22:17:06Z")
> [@chris88z24](#): > > OK, so let’s put you in that position for a minute. You don’t know shit about cars, are rich, and don’t do any work whatsoever on your car. What if you are out one day, giving your golf buddy or someone a ride, and decide to try out the launch control mode? You set it up, take off, and BOOM! There goes your transmission. Have the car towed to the dealer, and they tell you that your warranty is void and you will have to pay roughly 1/8 the cost of the vehicle to have the car fixed. There is no way in hell that you can sit there and say that you wouldn’t be pissed off. If i was rich, didn’t know shit about cars and older and did nothing to my own car, whether it’s the highest line of car in the company or not, i wouldn’t be buying a Nissan in the first place. But that’s just if i was old, rich, and retarded ;D ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/37 "2008-08-20T01:48:13Z")
> [@SSmokinn SS](#): > > regardless, its still shitty…and IMO, it will turn away a ton of people that wanted to buy the car, and most likely will steer them in the ZR-1 direction…it kinda defeats the purpose of making it a “race ready, performance car” when you cant perform with it to its full potential without voiding the warranty…its BS…If I were to spend that type of money on a car, Im damn well gonna drive it how it was made to be driven…the GT-R keeps you from doing that. most people who can afford the GTR dont care. most will be bought and used as boulevard cruisers like the common Porsche is by some white haired rich guy. and there is a big price difference between 78k for the GTR and 105+ for the ZR1… and if you had the money sure you might do something else with the money, but you dont so you cant make the comparison in that fashion… to race the car as Nissan intended doesnt require the VDC to be turned off. circuit racing doesnt need launch control since most circuit racing utilize the rolling grid for the start… the car wasnt designed to be a 1/4 mile slayer. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmerz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jimmerz/32/6370_2.png) [@Jimmerz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jimmerz)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/38 "2008-08-20T12:54:53Z")
> [@chris88z24](#): > > I don’t know about you but if I bought that car and the tranny dropped after a year and they denied me a warranty claim, I would be FURIOUS. It doesn’t matter how much money the car cost or how much money the owner has, that isn’t the point. The point is Nissan isn’t standing behind their product. And it’s a damn shame. ditto… id be more then furious… id drive the thing do the dealer and thru the showroom window where i got it, park it with the keys still in it, walk down to the ford dealership. ---
**Author:** ![04goat350](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/04goat350/32/6305_2.png) [@04goat350](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/04goat350)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/39 "2008-08-20T13:01:58Z")
one problem with the this 80k car is have fun trying to hit higher then 120mph on a normal road or highway because the car is GPS Goverend at 120mph and will turn off once you drive onto any type of raceway. they had this on top gear and that was the only thing the guy had an issue with on a normal road but other then that at the track amazing car. ---
**Author:** ![Alpine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@Alpine](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Alpine)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2008, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434/40 "2008-08-20T13:08:32Z")
> [@04goat350](#): > > one problem with the this 80k car is have fun trying to hit higher then 120mph on a normal road or highway because the car is GPS Goverend at 120mph and will turn off once you drive onto any type of raceway. they had this on top gear and that was the only thing the guy had an issue with on a normal road but other then that at the track amazing car. It has an anti-Nick Hogan device built right in. :crackup [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-flawless-gt-r-has-a-flaw-oh-noes/238434.md?page=3)