# The GM Recall \*Now EVERY new-gen Camaro\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [March 23, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716 "2014-03-23T18:25:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/61 "2014-06-13T08:27:09Z")
> [@Tbirdsc1](#): > > That video was pure gold…lol. I keep asking myself why did the government bail them out, should have let them squirm. > > Personal GM experience > > Trailblazer SS - yes it was fast, beyond that was in the shop with warranty repairs over 10 times during the 3 year lease. Seems like once they fixed one thing something else would break or fail. Was so happy to turn it back in when the lease was over. It was a fun truck, when it worked. > > Wife’s 2012 Equinox LT - was great for the first 12 or so months, then turned into a pile of shit. Has been in the shop easily 15 times for check engine lights, replaced the cam shaft sensor 4 times. They finally found out it was an engine issue and spent a week in the shop getting repaired, was over $5k in costs but covered of course under warranty. > Needless to say we are trading it early and currently have a 2014 Explorer sitting in the driveway (take home test drive)…fit/finish/drive is outstanding. > > I’ve had my Ford Thunderbird SC for over 15 years, beyond tires/brakes/oil/gas…not one thing wrong with it. My dad has had 7 F150’s (newest being a '13 Ecoboost) never in for repairs…none of them. My Raptor, its only a few weeks old but test drove every truck available, nothing even came close to matching it performance/quality/feature wise. > > GM has a long way to go, it’s 2014…get the fuck out of the 90’s. End rant/ You probably had the TBSS built on a Friday afternoon. I leased mine for 39 months. Whacked it with a 150 wet shot of nitrous starting about a month in. It was literally in for service once, for about 3 minutes, because a fog light bulb burned out. Most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/62 "2014-06-13T08:28:56Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > The last 3 GM’s that I’ve owned have been push-to-start. Problem solved. Keys are so overrated This… why wouldn’t they go this route vs a turn key. It seems like this would have been a smart move after the cobalt reports started coming in. Hell, is it really that much more to produce/is it even more money to produce? ---
**Author:** ![Tbirdsc1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tbirdsc1/32/7487_2.png) [@Tbirdsc1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tbirdsc1)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/63 "2014-06-13T08:32:21Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > You probably had the TBSS built on a Friday afternoon. I leased mine for 39 months. Whacked it with a 150 wet shot of nitrous starting about a month in. It was literally in for service once, for about 3 minutes, because a fog light bulb burned out. Most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. Hahaha, must have been. I will say that truck was a blast and very quick off the showroom floor. For the Equinox, set that thing on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/64 "2014-06-13T09:06:13Z")
Will we bail them out again knowing how evil they are? ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/65 "2014-06-13T13:10:46Z")
> **[This Is How Hard You Have To Hit A Camaro Key To Turn It Off](https://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-hard-you-have-to-hit-a-camaro-key-to-turn-i-1590538077?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)** > > Earlier today General Motors announced they will recall all the 511,528 current-generation Chevrolet Camaros on the road because they say a driver can inadvertently switch the car off by hitting the key fob. It turns out I have a 2014 Camaro SS press... ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/66 "2014-06-13T14:21:03Z")
the first time he got it to shut off in that video it looked to still be in ‘on’. whereas the second two times he just turned the car off with his knee but turning the key back… ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/67 "2014-06-14T06:32:36Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > Such a joke that we bailed this pathetic company out. Too big to fail or too fucked up to save. Guess they flipped a coin and it landed on tails? ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/68 "2014-06-14T06:59:35Z")
> [@97FormulaWS-6](#): > > This is why… > > [What if Taxpayers Hadn't Bailed Out GM and Chrysler? - DBusiness Magazine](http://www.dbusiness.com/DBusiness/September-October-2012/What-if-Taxpayers-Hadnt-Bailed-Out-GM-and-Chrysler/) > > We could have not bailed them out… but the domino effect would have been devastating to not only the US economy but the world. GM goes into liquidation, then the tier 1 suppliers, then tier 2 and 3 suppliers. The interconnectivity of things now a days is immense; one critical wheel fails, and the whole system self destructs. IE: see the reality behind the banking crisis and what likely would’ve happened if the Feds didn’t step in (Although in my personal opinion, this is still a huge risk to the world because there are still no risk limits that are truly in place to prevent the same situation from happening again; but I digress) this is the same excuse used to keep the military industrial complex going! That’s working well for us taxpayers also! I came in here to post about the camero recall. Someone beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/69 "2014-06-14T07:10:17Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > this is the same excuse used to keep the military industrial complex going! That’s working well for us also! > > I came in here to post about the camero recall. Someone beat me to it. “The accumulation and the repayment of debt basically drives every economic cycle that there is.” America is good at 1/2 the equation at least. Repayment of debt with existing money said debt represents, don’t be silly we have a virtual printing press. ---
**Author:** ![B5Swag585](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/b5swag585/32/6237_2.png) [@B5Swag585](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/B5Swag585)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2014, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/70 "2014-06-14T21:56:34Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > Such a joke that we bailed this pathetic company out. yes… yes it is! ive owned 3 GM vehicles over the years 95 cutlass, 97 gtp and 01 malibu. all of which started rotting out and breaking when not being driven lol GM products are piles of shit wrapped in an expensive money wrapping with every worse resale value except there corvettes and even those are a joke aka crossfire injection hahahaha ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/71 "2014-06-16T06:17:00Z")
> [@TradersBASE](#): > > Too big to fail or too fucked up to save. Guess they flipped a coin and it landed on tails? I really would not be surprised. I’m curious how long they thought this one through. At least they paid the debt off before they tank themselves again. I just don’t get how a company that large has such a hard time making cars that could compete with the rest of the world. They should have forced them to sell off/terminate all makes besides Chevy and either Buick or Cadillac. No need for everything else. Just focus on the 2, make the cars nice and move on. Stop trying to make cars for 5 different companies and fail because you spread the focus out to thin. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/72 "2014-06-16T06:28:38Z")
:lol: At the number of people around here hoping GM fails and have no understanding of GMs total impact on the US economy. GM ended 2012 with a profit GM ended 2013 with a profit ---
**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/73 "2014-06-16T06:36:42Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > :lol: At the number of people around here hoping GM fails and have no understanding of GMs total impact on the US economy. > > GM ended 2012 with a profit > GM ended 2013 with a profit Agreed. And not just the US market… Head over to Asia, there’s a LOT of final GM products, not to mention supply chain. Not to mention IF they had let GM go under, there would’ve been a significant not only to WNY, but to more than a few people on this forum. Just remember that every time you said you wish they had gone under, you’re wishing your fellow board member to be fired/let go from their jobs; some of the few remaining good paying “blue collar” jobs in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/74 "2014-06-16T06:50:17Z")
I just don’t understand how people can keep supporting a company when a. There are so many other (and better) options, b. Covered up a known, deadly problem for over a decade It’s kind of insanity. people will find other jobs. You can’t keep helping out a continually failing company simply because they have a lot of employees. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 6:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/75 "2014-06-16T06:56:46Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > I just don’t understand how people can keep supporting a company when a. There are so many other (and better) options, b. Covered up a known, deadly problem for over a decade > > It’s kind of insanity. Toyota to pay US $1.2 billion for deadly defect coverup > **[Toyota to pay US $1.2 billion for deadly defect coverup - Digital Journal](https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/toyota-to-pay-us-1-2-billion-for-deadly-defect-coverup/article/377157)** > > Toyota Motor Corp. will pay $1.2 billion to settle US criminal charges that it lied to safety regulators and the public as it tried to cover up deadly Ford Escape Recall May be a Cover-Up for Negligence > **[Ford Escape Recall May be a Cover-Up for Negligence](https://affiliates.legalexaminer.com/transportation/ford-escape-recall-may-be-a-coverup-for-negligence/)** > > In January of this year, 17-year-old Saige Bloom of Payson, Arizona died after her 2002 Ford Escape accelerated out of control while she was driving in traffic in front of her mom. The... I get a lot of you love imports and have some blind hatred for GM but you can can find cover ups and negligence from just about any large corporation in america at some point in their history. If you’re comparing MODERN GM vehicles to MODERN vehicles from other manufactures including imports the quality is on par…yea I get it GM made shitty cars in the 90s and so did just about every out domestic manufacturer. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/76 "2014-06-16T07:01:14Z")
Blind hatred?!? That’s funny. They’re awful, murdering vehicles? Plain and simple so tell my why you have an unwavering urge to defend this company? I mean, i hate baseball but I enjoy the Red Sox because my grandpa was a die hard fan. But I won’t spend any money on tickets, hats, ect… Just kind of nostalgic for me. Maybe that’s why you guys are so in love with the general. Your dad or someone had some siq auto c3 corvette or something ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/77 "2014-06-16T07:03:09Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > Blind hatred?!? That’s funny. They’re awful, murdering vehicles? Plain and simple > > so tell my why you have an unwavering urge to defend this company? I mean, i hate baseball but I enjoy the Red Sox because my grandpa was a die hard fan. But I won’t spend any money on them… Just kind of nostalgic for me. Maybe that’s why you guys are so in love with the general. Your dad or something had some siq auto c3 corvette or something Because you have 0 understanding of the role GM plays in the US economy? I would rather see them slowly correct their business model which they have been doing. ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/78 "2014-06-16T07:04:18Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > :lol: At the number of people around here hoping GM fails and have no understanding of GMs total impact on the US economy. GM ended 2012 with a profit GM ended 2013 with a profit I think it was impossible for them NOT to turn profit considering the amount of money they were given/loaned. :lol: ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/79 "2014-06-16T07:04:55Z")
Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2014, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716/80 "2014-06-16T07:10:19Z")
My wallet is fat as fawwwwwq Edit: honestly since all the recalls and the mess the new CEO is cleaning up, more cars have been sold and the price per share has shot up. What’s happening is when someone drops off their vehicle for a recall repair they’re given a new car. The majority of the people end up buying that car. I just hopped into a 2014 Regal Turbo, fucking love it, best car I’ve ever owned with an engine built right here in Tonawanda [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-gm-recall-now-every-new-gen-camaro/268716.md?page=5)