# The Governement Can Track Your Cell Phone w/o a Warrant. **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 26, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110 "2005-12-26T15:45:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/1 "2005-12-26T15:45:48Z")
> Yesterday, Magistrate Judge Gorenstein of the federal court for the Southern District of New York issued an opinion permitting the government to use cell site data to track a cell phone’s physical location, without the government having to obtain a search warrant based on probable cause > **[Deeplinks Archives](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004272.php)** ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/2 "2005-12-26T15:47:58Z")
you think they coulden’t do this before? if your really worried about being tracked you don’t own a cell phone ---
**Author:** ![TurboTSi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@TurboTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TurboTSi)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/3 "2005-12-26T16:04:54Z")
whoopty do, I don’t care if they know I’m sitting here at my parents house watching Everybody Loves Raymond. ---
**Author:** ![zero\_assault](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/dfb087/32.png) [@zero\_assault](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/zero_assault)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/4 "2005-12-26T16:06:09Z")
Yah, its not like Im going to organize illegal terrorist activity on my phone or am I? :snky: ---
**Author:** ![RuBiCaNT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rubicant/32/7622_2.png) [@RuBiCaNT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RuBiCaNT)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/5 "2005-12-26T16:09:05Z")
> [@sprfreek](#): > > you think they coulden’t do this before? if your really worried about being tracked you don’t own a cell phone I could care less but I figured others would like to know which is why I posted it. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/6 "2005-12-26T16:56:56Z")
> [@RuBiCaNT](#): > > I could care less but I figured others would like to know which is why I posted it. good call on posting it i agree … i guess most people don’t know this shit ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/7 "2005-12-26T17:10:08Z")
didnt know that… kinda feel violated, but i have nothign to hide… i dont care if they know where i am, its just weird thinking about it… when google earth came out i was like no shit… i didnt know they could take pictures that close… o well… im SURE they are even closer now, they could prolly count the hairs on my head… ---
**Author:** ![Ovrwrkd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ovrwrkd/32/7586_2.png) [@Ovrwrkd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ovrwrkd)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/8 "2005-12-26T17:25:57Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > didnt know that… kinda feel violated, but i have nothign to hide… i dont care if they know where i am, its just weird thinking about it… when google earth came out i was like no shit… i didnt know they could take pictures that close… o well… im SURE they are even closer now, they could prolly count the hairs on my head… There have been satellites with a resolution of less than a meter for 3+ years now. The technology is become cheaper and more available for projects like Google Earth and others to be realistic (as well as the govt. allowing the technology to be used). As for the cell phone tracking, no big news to me. I stopped making visits to the pornography store awhile ago. ---
**Author:** ![neurokinetik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/neurokinetik/32/7270_2.png) [@neurokinetik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neurokinetik)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/9 "2005-12-26T20:36:03Z")
Many phones have the ability to shut the GPS locator off, or at least, pretend to shut it off. But who knows if it really is off when it says it is… :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![1sik\_bmw](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1sik_bmw/32/7341_2.png) [@1sik\_bmw](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1sik_bmw)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/10 "2005-12-26T22:51:36Z")
you only have to worry if your a terrorist or drug dealer, and if you are A or B buy a nextel with push to talk ---
**Author:** ![Violator](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/violator/32/7278_2.png) [@Violator](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Violator)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2005, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/11 "2005-12-26T22:54:49Z")
> [@neurokinetik](#): > > Many phones have the ability to shut the GPS locator off, or at least, pretend to shut it off. But who knows if it really is off when it says it is… :gotme: They could track you when phones frst came out. GPS locator doesnt mean shit. They can triangulate your position with ease. As you move along your signal/ID gets transferred from tower to tower. All that data is available. Anyone with half a brain that needs to be sneaky will turn their phone off and yank the battery. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-governement-can-track-your-cell-phone-w-o-a-warrant/6110/12 "2005-12-27T05:43:18Z")
> [@Violator](#): > > They could track you when phones frst came out. GPS locator doesnt mean shit. They can triangulate your position with ease. As you move along your signal/ID gets transferred from tower to tower. All that data is available. > > Anyone with half a brain that needs to be sneaky will turn their phone off and yank the battery. true story. sad part: many folks are missing that “half a brain” concept.