# The hackers won... (The Interview Thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 17, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302 "2014-12-17T12:53:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/21 "2014-12-17T19:09:19Z")
It’d be hilarious if they re-released Team America instead lol ---
**Author:** ![Droptopp](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/droptopp/32/6797_2.png) [@Droptopp](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Droptopp)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/22 "2014-12-17T19:27:29Z")
I’m assuming this “gift” they kept mentioning that would be released on Christmas is some pretty high level conspiracy type information that threatens Sony as a company or at least costs more than the $44M for the movie and estimated $150-300M costs for the hack. Wonder what it could be ? Price fixing in the entire industry ? Good news is since these guys are malicious they will release it anyways. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/23 "2014-12-17T19:33:03Z")
It only got pulled today hours after every major movie theater chain was pulling it. Sony is making a mistake all their data is already in someone elses hands at this point just release the movie and move on. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/24 "2014-12-18T03:28:37Z")
> [@newman](#): > > The hackers won? The fucking terrorists are winning. This is fucking bananas and we all should be 1000 times more scared about this type of reaction to a threat than we should be of actually being a victim of terrorism. > > Holy fuck. THANK YOU! Unbelievable they pulled the movie. It’s North Korea for fucks sake. Every couple of weeks that fat shithead threatens to annihilate the west, or South Korea or the moon or something. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/25 "2014-12-18T04:30:49Z")
Meh, It was most likely going to be a pile of shit to begin with. If Sony/Theaters didn’t pull the movie and people got hurt everyone would argue that it should have been pulled. It’s a double edged sword. On one hand you have North Korea, or Iran or Jesus doing us a favor and saving us from this movie. On the other you have America (essentially) folding like a bunch of spineless pussies. Leak the movie, Sony should have no trouble doing that, then have viewing parties all over. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/26 "2014-12-18T05:54:30Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > It’s really hard to do attribution when it comes to hacks like this. As you would expect, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes (from an Incident Response perspective) than what is out there in the media outlets. I’ve heard a few bits and pieces of details… Needless to say, attribution won’t be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![drewster99](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/drewster99/32/5468_2.png) [@drewster99](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drewster99)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/27 "2014-12-18T06:04:38Z")
I actually really wanted to see this movie. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/28 "2014-12-18T06:23:47Z")
i think that the cancelling of the release is a good temporary step for 2 reasons. it will help establish the protocol that absolves the studio and cinemas from liability since they acted reasonably at first (assuming the movie will eventually be released). Further, it builds a great deal of hype for the movie when they finally do release it. Sony and the cinemas can’t totally ignore the thread because then their liability increases in light of it. however, by pulling back a bit they can define the steps to reduce liability with a delayed release. that way of some shit happens they will have acted ‘reasonably’. - - - Updated - - - > [@drewster99](#): > > I actually really wanted to see this movie. i was on the fence but now i need to see it 🙂 this threat has created additional demand. if they can convert it into profit then they will have effectively defeated the threat… future threats then may only leads to greater profits rather than fewer. ---
**Author:** ![juicedz4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/juicedz4/32/5051_2.png) [@juicedz4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/juicedz4)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/29 "2014-12-18T06:49:04Z")
> [@Motocrossx23](#): > > It’d be hilarious if they re-released Team America instead lol Done. > **[Texas theater to show "Team America" in place of canceled "Interview"](https://hotair.com/marykatharine/2014/12/17/texas-theater-to-show-team-america-in-place-of-canceled-interview-n194987)** > >   Fresh off the disappointing news that Sony Pictures has cancelled the December 25th release of Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg‘s comedy, The Interview, the Alamo Drafthouse announced that, in its place, they’ll screen Matt Parker and Trey Stone‘s Team America: World Police. Dan ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/30 "2014-12-18T06:58:09Z")
Can we take a step back and talk about who these threats are coming from? It’s not ISIS, who are actively carrying out attacks around the globe almost daily. It’s North Korea, who CONSTANTLY talk about attacks but never do because they know that as an organized nation the minute they attacked anywhere it would be the end of their regime. Having a nation under a flag and a government attack you is a lot different than some barely organized terrorist group operating under a cell model. I could maybe see Sony and these theaters pulling the films if it was ISIS urging any of their wackjob followers to attack theater patrons because there’s a legit chance an attack would happen and they have a track record that proves it. In this case though you have an ego maniac dictator with a history of being all talk and no action authorizing state sponsored hacking. He’s never going to attempt “a 9-11 like attack” as they’ve threatened because he knows the minute he did it would be the end of his country. ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/31 "2014-12-18T07:24:44Z")
^Yeah I think if North Korea wanted to level it’s entire country it should definitely try some attacks. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/32 "2014-12-18T07:25:16Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Needless to say, attribution won’t be an issue. I’m not sure how you can really say that there a number of attacks similar to this where they “think” it was XYZ but that is purely based on random names in a binary file or some other trivial link. But actual attribution with a high level of certainty is very hard in cases like this. It’s magnitudes easier when credit cards or other information that gets sold is involved because you can at some point track the money back. North Korea at this point said it wasn’t them and they traditionally talk a lot of shit. I have been involved in a handful of high profile IR incidents over the past few years In other news I love my job :lol: ![http://media.giphy.com/media/1jQhFdU2XHYD6/giphy.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/8/e832294cd55bcaf889d7035c0f42b33798531156.gif) ![http://media.giphy.com/media/QOKChEEkAAsow/giphy.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/5/e5769be7958dd2396e24f2fe8a7b23f18b9a17b4.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ProgRocker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/progrocker/32/5434_2.png) [@ProgRocker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ProgRocker)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/33 "2014-12-18T07:33:21Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > In other news I love my job :lol: on that note. [http://mashable.com/2014/12/17/data-mining-linkedin-hot-skills/](http://mashable.com/2014/12/17/data-mining-linkedin-hot-skills/) [#4](http://www.nyspeed.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=4) ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/34 "2014-12-18T10:29:25Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I’m not sure how you can really say that there a number of attacks similar to this where they “think” it was XYZ but that is purely based on random names in a binary file or some other trivial link. > > But actual attribution with a high level of certainty is very hard in cases like this. > > It’s magnitudes easier when credit cards or other information that gets sold is involved because you can at some point track the money back. > > North Korea at this point said it wasn’t them and they traditionally talk a lot of shit. > > I have been involved in a handful of high profile IR incidents over the past few years > > In other news I love my job :lol: > > ![http://media.giphy.com/media/1jQhFdU2XHYD6/giphy.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/8/e832294cd55bcaf889d7035c0f42b33798531156.gif) > > ![http://media.giphy.com/media/QOKChEEkAAsow/giphy.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/5/e5769be7958dd2396e24f2fe8a7b23f18b9a17b4.gif) In general, you’re right. But in this case, we’ll have to agree to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/35 "2014-12-18T14:44:06Z")
![http://www.bings.ca/images/misc/Other/aaron's%20NK%20comment.jpg](http://www.bings.ca/images/misc/Other/aaron's%20NK%20comment.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/36 "2014-12-18T14:46:09Z")
It’s weird that actual lawyers were saying it wasn’t an issue yet @**[theblue](http://www.nyspeed.com/member.php?u=2901)** practices law from behind his facebook account. The Sands Casino hack is getting dwarfed by this hack but still an issue. > **[Now at the Sands Casino: An Iranian Hacker in Every Server](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-11/iranian-hackers-hit-sheldon-adelsons-sands-casino-in-las-vegas)** > > Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas Sands Corp. was hit with a security breach in February. Is this the next frontier of cyberwarfare? ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/37 "2014-12-18T14:52:24Z")
actually i agree with Aaron. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/38 "2014-12-18T18:10:20Z")
Or the fact their insurance will cover if it’s never released…If it was released and did poorly because of threats they couldn’t claim shit. ---
**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/39 "2014-12-18T20:56:25Z")
Part of me thinks this is a MASSIVE publicity stunt to further hype the movie… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Darksyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed655f/32.png) [@Darksyde](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darksyde)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302/40 "2014-12-19T02:34:59Z")
> [@juicedz4](#): > > Done. > > [Texas theater to show "Team America" in place of canceled "Interview" – HotAir](http://hotair.com/archives/2014/12/17/texas-theater-to-show-team-america-in-place-of-canceled-interview/) > > Fresh off the disappointing news that Sony Pictures has cancelled the December 25th release of Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg‘s comedy, The Interview, the Alamo Drafthouse announced that, in its place, they’ll screen Matt Parker and Trey Stone‘s Team America: World Police. > > Dan This has also been pulled. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hackers-won-the-interview-thread/271302.md?page=3)