# the hill is at it again

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**Created:** [January 23, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hill-is-at-it-again/194997 "2008-01-23T12:49:12Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-hill-is-at-it-again/194997/49 "2008-01-24T12:48:46Z")

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> [@NYSpeed BBQ Cruise](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-bbq-cruise/34510/28):
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> thats bull shit. my best friend lived in the hill, ran with gangs, dealt drugs… then went to school, learned a trade, got a job, moved away from pittsburgh, built a house and started a family. …

you’re right…that statement came straight from his ass

> [@NYSpeed BBQ Cruise](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-bbq-cruise/34510/28):
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> the civic arena isnt that big thou, i dont understand how it would displace 10k people and 400 business. those are bull shit #'s… did the civic arena light the hill district on fire in 1968? no it was fuckin hill residents. they burn down their own fuckin houses. they didnt build no arenas in homewood or hazelwood… what the fuck in the cause there? i’ll tell you what the cause is, lazy ass welfare collectors. Actaully the biggest cause of the most run down places in the city is the closing of the mills. braddock, mckeesport, hazelwood, homestead… they were all thriving places, the main street in those places had averything from hardware stores to jewlers… Sporting arenas dont run neighborhoods down… factories leaving do… if anywhere is a model of this its DETROIT… dont complain about how much of a shit hole detroit is if you buy foreign cars…

i’m not saying the numbers are right or wrong, im just saying what i read from more then one site…news & pgh history sites.

the major cause of an area getting ruined is businesses leaving, mills/factories in your example… they are just “large” businesses. & thats the same point i was making. if they lost a huge portion of business due to the civic arena it probably started the doward spiral, then property value decreases, degerates move in & so on & so forth.

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