# The idea behind tuning
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive
**Created:** [October 20, 2005, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579 "2005-10-20T10:18:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@Jedi\_Car\_Fan](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jedi_Car_Fan)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/61 "2006-05-13T16:17:28Z")
> [@Gonad](#):
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> I plan to prove to all the naysayers about BikiRom :dunno:
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> I have no problem trying new things and being brown and all, obviously
> the $300 price tag looks a hell of a lot better then $3000
So what happened G ?
You jumped ship on the Biki pretty quick for a PowerFC ?
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### Author:  [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2006, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/62 "2006-05-14T07:47:41Z")
yup yup
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### Author:  [@prodigy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/prodigy)
#### Post date: [December 4, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/63 "2006-12-04T14:40:10Z")
I found Sasha’s article to be very thorough and informative. Nicely done.
It should also be noted, however, that factories base OEM tuning on a collection of **data medians**. That is to say, they’ll test 10 cars in and outside of all the predicted operating conditions, take the average (or median) conditions recorded, and tune for that.
Now, EVERY car is different. There are **so many variables** that a manufacturer can’t allow for, so they tune what is safe for the average. This is why it’s actually possible to tune in a conservative manner, increasing both power _and_ fuel economy _and_ reliability with essentially zero negatives. Unfortunately one needs to invest in some data acquisition units and sensors first (Wideband O2, EGT, some control unit to do the actual tuning with), and this – as well as the tuning itself – costs money, and lots of it. So it’s usually more desirable to perform at least a few supporting modifications first, to get the most out of a tune.
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### Author:  [@darkside240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/darkside240sx)
#### Post date: [February 13, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/64 "2008-02-13T09:43:55Z")
tuning is way over my head, i have mad respect for sasha for that great display of knowledge!!
this is gonna be a stupid ? i know it!
if you put cold air, header and exhaust, should u get ur ecu tuned, or not worth it for such small mods. what mods require you to tune and what mods can u add and still run fine on a stock ecu? when you add a turbo you have to tune it right? u can’t just drop a turbo in and expect it to work, or can you?
yea i am a noob to tuning. i know how a turbo works and the basic functions, but as for installing and making work, phf. some day i would like to go sr or ka-t.
being my first 240, i’m still learning(mad thanks to anyone who’s helped me out), alot of u guys have gone through 2-3 of these cars already and know ur way around them. import tuning is a new thing to me, i love my 240, best car i’ve ever owned. i’d just like to know what i’m doing b4 i do it!!!
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### Author:  [@\_RSTuning.ca](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/_RSTuning.ca)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/65 "2009-05-30T10:54:25Z")
> [@Bone stock SRT-8 300C: 12.56 @ 111.50 MPH](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/bone-stock-srt-8-300c-12-56-111-50-mph/4894/13):
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> Or Engine Size but what I was getting at is basically he is a 16 year old goof.
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> When His KA-t Or SR or what ever he is building excedes 300whp then he can start talkin’ smack.
hahahhahahaha
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### Author:  [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/66 "2009-05-30T16:41:05Z")
> [@Newman's 1986 BMW 326rb build thread.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-1986-bmw-326rb-build-thread/22123/156):
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> [http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/scarboroughdub/radeks14240ka24det14psi8x6.jpg](http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/scarboroughdub/radeks14240ka24det14psi8x6.jpg)
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> hahahhahahaha
Don’t fuck with Radek. His shit is toooight.
No shit though. From what I hear around the block, Radek is tune master.
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### Author:  [@SaNTi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SaNTi)
#### Post date: [May 30, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/67 "2009-05-30T16:53:30Z")
Man… A while ago I figured you plug the car into a computer, and a Forza 2 type screen pops up and you just grab a controller and fuck with some gear ratios… lol
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### Author:  [@vinny13](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vinny13)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/68 "2009-09-26T21:05:50Z")
> [@Call Out: Addicted2Boost & Onyx Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/call-out-addicted2boost-onyx-z32/15787/28):
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> tuning is way over my head, i have mad respect for sasha for that great display of knowledge!!
>
> this is gonna be a stupid ? i know it!
>
> if you put cold air, header and exhaust, should u get ur ecu tuned, or not worth it for such small mods. what mods require you to tune and what mods can u add and still run fine on a stock ecu? when you add a turbo you have to tune it right? u can’t just drop a turbo in and expect it to work, or can you?
>
> yea i am a noob to tuning. i know how a turbo works and the basic functions, but as for installing and making work, phf. some day i would like to go sr or ka-t.
>
> being my first 240, i’m still learning(mad thanks to anyone who’s helped me out), alot of u guys have gone through 2-3 of these cars already and know ur way around them. import tuning is a new thing to me, i love my 240, best car i’ve ever owned. i’d just like to know what i’m doing b4 i do it!!!
OLD, but exactly what I’m thinking… I’m trying to save up for a first car, hopefully a S13 Coupe and I think I have a pretty good knowledge of what does what and how (better this year cause Gr.11 auto class is more “in-depth” :)). Right now I’m removing a 3.3L engine from a crappy '92 Grand Am and then maybe overhauling it, so I’m sure I’m going to learn a lot more from that… After reading this thread though, I know I better buy some books and stuff cause I know nothing about EMS tuning and I better learn before I get into tuning anything :study:
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### Author:  [@Re\_Ameyami](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Re_Ameyami)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/69 "2009-09-27T08:01:12Z")
> [@This cannot be true...right?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/this-cannot-be-true-right/4905/15):
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> Tell me how the Biki Rom Is far superior to a Standalone Computer?
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> What shop is this you work at?
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> I didn’t know there was a 16 year old ECU tuner out there who will own us all?
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> Show me some car’s you have tuned making 285whp at 8psi…
I don’t think you fully understand who your talking to…
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### Author:  [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/70 "2009-09-27T13:24:09Z")
i dont think you guys fully understand the concept of time!
that shit was 4 years ago
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### Author:  [@Osad](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Osad)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/71 "2009-09-27T13:28:21Z")
LMAO Ivan shut the fuck up!!
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### Author:  [@chino905](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/chino905)
#### Post date: [March 5, 2013, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-idea-behind-tuning/89579/72 "2013-03-05T18:08:37Z")
sooo i dont meen to bump n old thred buttt who is tuning theses days ne wayss huh
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