# The KA-T Passes Emissions! \*short novel\*

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802>\
**Category:** SON240sx Automotive\
**Created:** [August 10, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802 "2006-08-10T22:31:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/1 "2006-08-10T22:31:26Z")

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Not sure whether this is a big deal or not, but my KA-T just passed emissions, the legal way!

Don’t have the numbers handy but I was really glad because I spent extra time/money keeping the EGR intact, and a few other details such as using “Guaranteed To Pass” to keep it clean.

_This is the good stuff…_  
 ![http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/DarkForceJackal/1347500801_0.jpg](http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/DarkForceJackal/1347500801_0.jpg)

_My car getting tested…_  
 ![http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/DarkForceJackal/1347500289_0.jpg](http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a102/DarkForceJackal/1347500289_0.jpg)

So in case anyone was wondering, yeah, it can be done.

It actually took two tries.

First one failed with only slightly high HC’s during 40kmh test - but the guy who ran the dyno managed to accidently burn through all of 1st gear in about **one second** when he managed to get boost to kick in. His manager came running over and told him to take it easy…think my sensitive gas pedal and KA-T powa got him good… :lol:

Unfortunately, I think the extra fuel dumped in (runs rich only under boost) may have caused the fail. But to be safe, I changed the oil, turned the timing back from 20 to 18 degrees and put some new plugs in.

That did it, car passed with quite a bit of room to spare!

Sweet.

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**Author:** ![blu2fourty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@blu2fourty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blu2fourty)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/2 "2006-08-10T22:58:24Z")

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congrats on the pass. i barely passed etest w/ a stock ka lol

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**Author:** ![s1495](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@s1495](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s1495)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/3 "2006-08-11T00:52:15Z")

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Congrats on the pass! I’ve plugged my egr to t2 exhaust manifold pipe so not sure how much effect it’ll have. You are still running the egr “siphon” pipe to your exhaust manifold right?

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/4 "2006-08-11T01:14:55Z")

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Thanks guys…

Yeah my EGR stock pipe was cut off part way, then re-plumbed (with steel piping) in fact to the lower downpipe.

You may well be able to pass without the EGR, i’m just not sure.

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**Author:** ![ziptied](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ziptied/32/5509_2.png) [@ziptied](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ziptied)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/5 "2006-08-11T08:04:15Z")

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that’s awsome dark… at least you don’t have to pay 2 bills like me to have my kat pass cough cough under the table =)

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**Author:** ![Happy240sx](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/happy240sx/32/5515_2.png) [@Happy240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Happy240sx)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/6 "2006-08-11T08:37:14Z")

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> [@willX](#):
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> that’s awsome dark… at least you don’t have to pay 2 bills like me to have my kat pass cough cough under the table =)

It’s not under the table is you blab about it…

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**Author:** ![ziptied](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ziptied/32/5509_2.png) [@ziptied](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ziptied)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/7 "2006-08-11T08:47:15Z")

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> [@Happy240sx](#):
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> [quote=willX]that’s awsome dark… at least you don’t have to pay 2 bills like me to have my kat pass cough cough under the table =)

It’s not under the table is you blab about it…[/quote]

haha who the hell cares…stay on topic

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**Author:** ![drunkmunky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/fbc32d/32.png) [@drunkmunky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drunkmunky)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/8 "2006-08-11T10:05:50Z")

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what is that crc guaranteed the pass? is it a formula or is it just instructions to read so that your engine is in tip top shape before your test?

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**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/9 "2006-08-11T10:42:53Z")

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You got owned by the picture. Says formula right on it.

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**Author:** ![absolum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@absolum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/absolum)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/10 "2006-08-11T11:15:13Z")

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Great news  
now you can get a EGR block off plate till your next emission test :lol:  
they sell a great one off ebay that is held by 3 bolts.  
BTW: I am heading to the dyno tonight to tomorrow, care to join?

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/11 "2006-08-11T17:51:01Z")

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The “Guaranteed to Pass” stuff is just a fuel additive that you run for 250km’s or so before emissions testing to help ensure your car is running as clean as possible.

Yes, it’s a “formula” as Solarian mentioned… :lol:

> [@absolum](#):
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> Great news  
> now you can get a EGR block off plate till your next emission test :lol:  
> they sell a great one off ebay that is held by 3 bolts.  
> BTW: I am heading to the dyno tonight to tomorrow, care to join?

I’m on some crazy night shifts for the next 6 days…i’d love to though…what time/day are you going?

I doubt I can make it this time around, but let me know, I just might be able to!

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**Author:** ![drunkmunky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/fbc32d/32.png) [@drunkmunky](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/drunkmunky)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/12 "2006-08-12T05:50:56Z")

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how long did you put it into your system before you went for emissions?  
is this a kaka tire product or a speciality store product?

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**Author:** ![jammin1911](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jammin1911](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jammin1911)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/13 "2006-08-12T09:48:51Z")

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so did you get “double your money back” when you failed? like it says on the container?

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**Author:** ![renegade141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba8739/32.png) [@renegade141](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/renegade141)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/14 "2006-08-12T11:30:33Z")

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you can still pass the e-test even with the EGR bypassed…

i passed with room to spare

this is on a stock ka

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**Author:** ![absolum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@absolum](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/absolum)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/15 "2006-08-12T12:27:12Z")

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maybe tonight , not sure yet .  
The dyno guy is not picking up his phone :roll:

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/16 "2006-08-12T14:40:57Z")

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drunkmunky - I poured it into a fresh tank of gas and drove about 250km’s with it. It’s a Canadian/“Kaka” Tire product indeed…lol!

Jammin1911 - I wouldn’t have qualified for the double-money-back thing because my emissions system is still technically missing the AIV box/PAIRC valve anyway…and other factors…but it wasn’t really about that for me. I just wanted a better shot at passing and running cleaner.

renegade141 - I decided to keep my EGR for various reasons, but i’ve heard as well that it is still possible to pass without it.

absolum - i’ll be free for the next 5 days or so from 3pm-6pm only if you happen to get a hold of dyno dude… :lol:

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**Author:** ![DarkManX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/darkmanx/32/5569_2.png) [@DarkManX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkManX)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/17 "2006-08-12T15:05:05Z")

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You should have came to me haha. I’ve done two SR’s

so list the specs. i wanna see how much it passed by. especailly the curb idle.

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**Author:** ![DarkForceJackal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@DarkForceJackal](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DarkForceJackal)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-ka-t-passes-emissions-short-novel/98802/18 "2006-08-12T17:54:09Z")

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**Test #1 FAIL** - First test, boost hit “accidentally” in 1st gear lol - extra fuel, possibly unburnt, may have caused high HC’s

**ASM 2525**  
_HC ppm_  
108 out of allowed 64 - FAIL  
_CO %_  
0.11 out of allowed 0.35 - PASS  
_NO ppm_  
339 out of allowed 485 - PASS

**CURB IDLE**  
_HC ppm_  
174 out of allowed 200 - PASS  
_CO %_  
0.01 out of allowed 1.00 - PASS

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**Test #2 PASS** - Second test - new plugs, oil change, timing back 2 degrees to 18 BTDC

**ASM 2525**  
_HC ppm_  
53 out of allowed 64 - PASS  
_CO %_  
0.04 out of allowed 0.35 - PASS  
_NO ppm_  
175 out of allowed 485 - PASS

**CURB IDLE**  
_HC ppm_  
154 out of allowed 200 - PASS  
_CO %_  
0.05 out of allowed 1.00 - PASS

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I left the RPM/dilution numbers out, but you get the idea.
