# THE NEW G8

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [February 21, 2007, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152 "2007-02-21T08:53:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/61 "2007-03-19T12:32:56Z")

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> [@Milsher Roller Rink](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/milsher-roller-rink/28869/5):
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> Hmmmmmm GM is tryin to make an AWD but there’s a few problems there having. Next time use google not jeeves for ur search. And I also meant RWD sorry for the typo.

ya its impossible for the current platform, but as far as the new model version thats coming out, that may happen, but its not here yet

Sigma platform, which the Camaro, CTS, (new GTO) will all use it. As well as the mid sized Crossovers (thats where the AWD comes from).

theres ideas of an AWD CTS, but getting it to work with the Sigma-Lite platform is not in the cards at the present time. But who knows

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**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/62 "2007-03-19T12:42:36Z")

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> [@OFFICIAL Buffalo Sabres Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-buffalo-sabres-thread/25170/5041):
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> -1 for using the word “dupe”.

🤣

G8 looks cool to me tho.

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/63 "2007-03-19T13:09:55Z")

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> [@\*\*\*\*\*Official: Mighty Meet Thread\*\*\*\*\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-mighty-meet-thread/10918/1838):
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> Sigma platform, which the Camaro, CTS, (new GTO) will all use it. As well as the mid sized Crossovers (thats where the AWD comes from).

yeah…the SRX & STS use the sigma & have AWD models…

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/64 "2007-03-19T13:25:15Z")

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> [@I think my finger got AIDS....WTF](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-think-my-finger-got-aids-wtf/28860/22):
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> yeah…the SRX & STS use the sigma & have AWD models…

true, but theyre not sigma-lite… which is what the cts, camaro etc are

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/65 "2007-03-20T05:47:54Z")

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> [@FormulaLs1 Vs. Choko](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/formulals1-vs-choko/28864/35):
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> true, but theyre not sigma-lite… which is what the cts, camaro etc are

i thought the current STS CTS & SRX are on sigma…

the new 2008 CTS is on sigma lite

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/66 "2007-03-20T06:11:21Z")

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> [@GPS Navigation... What to buy?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/gps-navigation-what-to-buy/4678/14):
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> i thought the current STS CTS & SRX are on sigma…
> 
> the new 2008 CTS is on sigma lite

dont quote me on it, I still wanna say its on the sigma lite… because if it was on a viable AWD platform, why miss out on sales to BMW and Mercedes with the 4-matic and 3X Series.

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/67 "2007-03-20T06:39:44Z")

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> [@Search Engine](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/search-engine/28900/2):
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> dont quote me on it, I still wanna say its on the sigma lite… because if it was on a viable AWD platform, why miss out on sales to BMW and Mercedes with the 4-matic and 3X Series.

i looked it up

the current cts sts & srx are on sigma  
the new '08 CTS is gonna be on sigma II along with 2009 sts & 2010 srx

some good info here.

> **[General Motors Sigma platform](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Sigma_platform)**
>
> The General Motors Sigma platform is a mid-size automobile platform used by General Motors from the 2003 to 2015 model years. Exclusive to the Cadillac division, Sigma was the successor to the Opel-designed V platform. Initially developed for executive cars, the architecture was expanded for larger model lines, sports sedans, and multiple body styles.  
> Two generations of the Sigma platform were developed by GM for worldwide markets. The architecture was discontinued for the 2016 in favor of ...

'A so-called “Sigma Lite” variant might reach production in 2007 as a replacement for the reworked Zeta platform. These vehicles would be built with less-expensive components and would be sold by Buick, Chevrolet and Pontiac."

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/68 "2007-03-20T07:18:41Z")

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> [@WTB: 15 or 16 inch rims 4x100](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-15-or-16-inch-rims-4x100/28078/36):
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> i looked it up
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> the current cts sts & srx are on sigma  
> the new '08 CTS is gonna be on sigma II along with 2009 sts & 2010 srx
> 
> some good info here.  
> [General Motors Sigma platform - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Sigma_platform)
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> 'A so-called “Sigma Lite” variant might reach production in 2007 as a replacement for the reworked Zeta platform. These vehicles would be built with less-expensive components and would be sold by Buick, Chevrolet and Pontiac."

which leads me back to my question, why no AWD then?

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/69 "2007-03-20T07:32:08Z")

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> [@WTF internet?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtf-internet/28479/278):
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> which leads me back to my question, why no AWD then?

why the current CTS & CTS-V are not AWD?? don’t know.

maybe its because the AWD in the SRX & STS are on the stretched sigma & it somehow makes the parts not compatible??

i’m just guessing/throwing out ideas.

& maybe cause they don’t have a manual tranny for it…the STS & SRX only come in autos.

:dunno:

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**Author:** ![beat90tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/43a26b/32.png) [@beat90tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/beat90tsi)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/70 "2007-03-20T07:32:46Z")

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Yeah, it would make sense for them to roll out some AWD models. DC is rocking the Hemi vehicles with RWD and AWD. Most of the euro makes seem to offer AWD.

GM has never been a leader AWD technology. What have they had? Astro Vans, maybe a few trucks/blazers, and the newer trailblazers?

I hope they produce AWD with manual trans. The A8s only come in an auto, even the S8 always came as an auto in the U.S. None of the DC Hemi vehicles have a manual trans, RWD or AWD (until the Challenger). It would be a nice addition.

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/71 "2007-03-20T08:14:33Z")

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> [@FS: Woman's bracelet](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-womans-bracelet/27561/21):
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> Yeah, it would make sense for them to roll out some AWD models. DC is rocking the Hemi vehicles with RWD and AWD. Most of the euro makes seem to offer AWD.
> 
> GM has never been a leader AWD technology. What have they had? Astro Vans, maybe a few trucks/blazers, and the newer trailblazers?
> 
> I hope they produce AWD with manual trans. The A8s only come in an auto, even the S8 always came as an auto in the U.S. None of the DC Hemi vehicles have a manual trans, RWD or AWD (until the Challenger). It would be a nice addition.

AWD manual tranny American cars…there are none that i know of… …even if you consider x-overs…still none

STS = auto  
SRX = auto  
caliber AWD = only in auto (CVT)  
charger = auto  
magnum = auto  
Fusion AWD/Milan AWD = Auto only  
Freestyle/TaurusX = auto  
Lincoln MKZ = auto  
Five Hundred AWD/Montego = auto (CVT)

don’t think i missed any

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/72 "2007-03-20T08:24:58Z")

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> [@I think my finger got AIDS....WTF](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-think-my-finger-got-aids-wtf/28860/39):
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> AWD manual tranny American cars…there are none that i know of… …even if you consider x-overs…still none
> 
> STS = auto  
> SRX = auto  
> caliber AWD = only in auto (CVT)  
> charger = auto  
> magnum = auto  
> Fusion AWD/Milan AWD = Auto only  
> Freestyle/TaurusX = auto  
> Lincoln MKZ = auto  
> Five Hundred AWD/Montego = auto (CVT)
> 
> don’t think i missed any

Mazdaspeed 6? Technically it’s a Fusion, well other way around but you get my point

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/73 "2007-03-20T08:25:38Z")

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> [@FS: Woman's bracelet](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-womans-bracelet/27561/21):
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> Yeah, it would make sense for them to roll out some AWD models. DC is rocking the Hemi vehicles with RWD and AWD. Most of the euro makes seem to offer AWD.
> 
> GM has never been a leader AWD technology. What have they had? Astro Vans, maybe a few trucks/blazers, and the newer trailblazers?
> 
> I hope they produce AWD with manual trans. The A8s only come in an auto, even the S8 always came as an auto in the U.S. None of the DC Hemi vehicles have a manual trans, RWD or AWD (until the Challenger). It would be a nice addition.

Challenger is RWD only I believe

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/74 "2007-03-20T08:26:16Z")

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> [@FS: Integra Front/Rear Disc Brake Setup, B18A Longblock, F22 Longblock](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-integra-front-rear-disc-brake-setup-b18a-longblock-f22-longblock/27347/25):
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> why the current CTS & CTS-V are not AWD?? don’t know.
> 
> maybe its because the AWD in the SRX & STS are on the stretched sigma & it somehow makes the parts not compatible??
> 
> i’m just guessing/throwing out ideas.
> 
> & maybe cause they don’t have a manual tranny for it…the STS & SRX only come in autos.
> 
> :dunno:

I wasn’t really even looking for an AWD CTS-V, just a regular CTS

to my understanding the STS-V does not come in AWD, just RWD

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/75 "2007-03-20T08:36:53Z")

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> [@Any Audi Dealer/Mechanic around here?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-audi-dealer-mechanic-around-here/28834/17):
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> Mazdaspeed 6? Technically it’s a Fusion, well other way around but you get my point

the mazda 6 is based on the same platform as the Ford Mondeo (euro version of Ford contour) & the volvo S80 i think…& possibly one of the small jags.  
pretty sure its different then the fusion/milan

its had the same platform since it came out in 03

i think the new mazda 6 that comes out in 08-09 is gonna be based on the MKZ & get the 3.5L v6 from it…& not the 3.0 from the fusion/milan

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/76 "2007-03-20T08:37:28Z")

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> [@I think my finger got AIDS....WTF](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-think-my-finger-got-aids-wtf/28860/40):
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> Challenger is RWD only I believe

both AWD & RWD…just like the magnum

SRT models are RWD only

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/77 "2007-03-20T08:37:52Z")

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> [@Any Audi Dealer/Mechanic around here?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-audi-dealer-mechanic-around-here/28834/18):
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> to my understanding the STS-V does not come in AWD, just RWD

correct.

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**Author:** ![BlueZ06](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/78 "2007-03-20T10:11:11Z")

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> [@Post vids/pics of full dressers doing wheelies here](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-vids-pics-of-full-dressers-doing-wheelies-here/28905/6):
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> the mazda 6 is based on the same platform as the Ford Mondeo (euro version of Ford contour) & the volvo S80 i think…& possibly one of the small jags.  
> pretty sure its different then the fusion/milan
> 
> its had the same platform since it came out in 03
> 
> i think the new mazda 6 that comes out in 08-09 is gonna be based on the MKZ & get the 3.5L v6 from it…& not the 3.0 from the fusion/milan

according to Wikipedia

The Mazda 6, is also the:

Ford Fusion  
Mercury Milan  
Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ

And Crossover format:  
Ford Edge  
Mazda CX-9  
Lincoln MKX

and everything Dodge has put out that I’ve read, has all indication stating the Challenger is RWD only

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/79 "2007-03-20T10:27:05Z")

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> [@Any Audi Dealer/Mechanic around here?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-audi-dealer-mechanic-around-here/28834/24):
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> according to Wikipedia
> 
> and everything Dodge has put out that I’ve read, has all indication stating the Challenger is RWD only

check dodge’s website…among other sites

The all-wheel drive (AWD) system available on all Charger models except SRT8:

```
* Provides better acceleration, especially when traction is limited
* Supplies power to both axles at all times-62 percent of the engine torque to the rear wheels and 38 percent to the front-giving the rear-wheel-drive feel essential for performance sedans
* A planetary center differential allows the axles to rotate at different speeds, necessary for cornering

```

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**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2007, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-g8/188152/80 "2007-03-20T10:31:49Z")

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> [@Any Audi Dealer/Mechanic around here?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/any-audi-dealer-mechanic-around-here/28834/24):
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> and everything Dodge has put out that I’ve read, has all indication stating the Challenger is RWD only

my bad…i wasn’t reading  
we were talking magnum/charger before & i didn’t realize you wrote challenger…i was still talking charger

i have no idea about the challenger…but its a chrysler so who cares anyway…LOL

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