# The new track car  \*Updated 7/5 w/ new pic\*

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**Created:** [November 27, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-track-car-updated-7-5-w-new-pic/255759 "2010-11-27T07:31:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 8, 2010, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-new-track-car-updated-7-5-w-new-pic/255759/84 "2010-12-08T11:02:00Z")

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> [@What a long strange trip it's been..........](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been/37857/42):
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> you guys didnt like AWD track cars?

Its not a matter of liking a platform, its about improving as a driver. See below.

> [@Yarrrrrrrrrrr!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/yarrrrrrrrrrr/37863/8):
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> that can happen in any platform.
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> i wasnt being a dick i really wonder what he is looking to gain from an FR platform over AWD. saying that the awd is too forgiving of a platform means your recognizing your errors, but eliminating those errors will only improve your overall ability. in your first post you do say that support for the LGT is limited and hats understandable, but for the price you prepared to spend on moton doubles for an FR setup that you will be initially limited by, why not spend a little extra and do a moton double setup in the LGT and make a forgiving platform even better. ultimately its your money and youll spend it how you see fit, but forging your own path and learning and developing something different seems a bit more adventurous, rather than picking the car that you can lego together and be like everyone else.
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> either way:hug

I know that was for Chris, but here are my unsolicited thoughts. AWD is “forgiving” because it covers up mistakes with easy throttle-on traction. So you can go bombing into a corner like an idiot and have a greater likelihood of keeping it on the pavement through no amount of driver skill, just car capability.

Because its forgiving, a street-setup AWD car makes you look like a hero because it doesn’t punish small dumb mistakes. To improve as a driver, Cossey bought the M3 to put himself in situations where he needs to rely on driver skill, not the car saving his ass and the driver never knowing he was in trouble.

Finding parts for the LGT was a PITA, I was using race contacts from all kinds of weird serieswith little success. The M3 iscommon and well documented as a track and race car meaning comparison data is easy.

> [@FJ or 4Runner???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fj-or-4runner/37882/8):
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> At high speeds AWD slightly pushes like a FWD. Not saying I can do it, but a more precise driver can run a corner at higher speeds in an FR rather than AWD. And when racing, every little bit counts, you know that.
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> I dont need to worry about that cuz I solo race and autox speeds are much slower, to where the AWD helps.
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> Great pick up, Cossey, one question though. Am I reading your first post wrong? Or you really did want a car for the track that has navigation in it? Huh? lol

Incorrect and way oversimplified. You can make any car or platform under or oversteer with a few knob turns and wrenches. Again, this was mostly driver related, not about which car or platform is ultimately faster.

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