# The next trillion dollar bailout **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059 "2009-01-28T12:06:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Geehee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/geehee/32/7238_2.png) [@Geehee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Geehee)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/61 "2009-01-29T07:59:08Z")
Jeg, you really shouldnt argue about anything involving economics. I mean, its entertaining, but, come on… ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/62 "2009-01-29T08:01:30Z")
> [@JEG](#): > > No, it is not a big differance, I don’t see how spending money we don’t have on bullshit that wont effect the economy in the least bit is an economic stimulus. Please explain how you have come to this conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/63 "2009-01-29T08:12:35Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > You know I always thought this was this best country in the world because I didn’t like the social programs in other countries but, now our government is just stealing in broad daylight. There has just got to be a better country than the USA at this point. > “The looting of America” > Sad. If you don’t like social programs then you should move to a country that doesn’t really have any. I hear Mexico is nice this time of year, or how about Vietnam, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Yemen, Algeria, Darfur, Liberia, Belize, Brazil, Haiti, Colombia, Argentina, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mongolia(excellent skiing), India, Rwanda, Somalia, Syria, Lebanon… …I think theres a pattern here but I’m not quite sure. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/64 "2009-01-29T08:15:59Z")
> [@justa4door](#): > > lol you would think that water would just come to the top… > > reallyi kinda wana hear about this … like would it stay down there? > > or is it that the pressure just kills everythign bad and shit [http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Co2+bottom+of+ocean](http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Co2+bottom+of+ocean) ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/65 "2009-01-29T08:17:20Z")
sry ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/66 "2009-01-29T08:22:05Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#): > > Anarchy is not the answer. > > I did read about an idea to convert the gas to a liquid and send it to the bottom of the ocean. Seems strange but who knows? As I understand it, the method we’re looking at, and may actually do a pilot plant study at a new coal plant in Jamestown, involved keeping it gaseous and compressing it and pumping it into a storage cavern in the ground at a couple thousand psi. Something like that anyway. I’m a bit skeptical of the idea of “permanent storage” when it comes to environmental issues. We actually have a hydrogen storage cavern in texas, but it’s not permanent storage it’s like a big buffer tank for product gas we sell and ship via truck/pipeline. I say our best option for now is nuclear, and then futurama the nuclear waste. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/67 "2009-01-29T08:23:53Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > If you don’t like social programs then you should move to a country that doesn’t really have any. I hear Mexico is nice this time of year, or how about Vietnam, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Yemen, Algeria, Darfur, Liberia, Belize, Brazil, Haiti, Colombia, Argentina, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mongolia(excellent skiing), India, Rwanda, Somalia, Syria, Lebanon… > > …I think theres a pattern here but I’m not quite sure. social programs for people that actually need it arent a bad thing, poorly thought out and broken social programs that don’t work/burden the economy are another story (see NY, california, canada, etc) ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/68 "2009-01-29T08:24:02Z")
lets put all the waste into west valley … oh wait ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/69 "2009-01-29T08:24:29Z")
whoa, is this hydrogen storage cavern a couple thousand psi too? that would make for a sweet explosion. Is it really possible to keep CO2 that pressurized forever? Wouldn’t the cavern just rupture over time in even the slightest way and cause it all to leak out? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/70 "2009-01-29T08:25:27Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > whoa, is this hydrogen storage cavern a couple thousand psi too? that would make for a sweet explosion. > > Is it really possible to keep CO2 that pressurized forever? Wouldn’t the cavern just rupture over time in even the slightest way and cause it all to leak out? yeah, it doesnt seem likely that you’d be able to completely seal it off ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/71 "2009-01-29T08:55:05Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > whoa, is this hydrogen storage cavern a couple thousand psi too? that would make for a sweet explosion. > > Is it really possible to keep CO2 that pressurized forever? Wouldn’t the cavern just rupture over time in even the slightest way and cause it all to leak out? :lol: Ain’t that just the billion dollar question? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/72 "2009-01-29T08:59:09Z")
if you figure out either this or our BAC device for trading you can have that cabinet-level position. ---
**Author:** ![mechanicalmadness](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mechanicalmadness/32/5022_2.png) [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/73 "2009-01-29T09:00:20Z")
Getting too OT with the gas storage shit but i am very curious about it. also wouldnt dumping co2 into the ocean kill shit thats down there? ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/74 "2009-01-29T09:28:26Z")
Outta sight outta mind. ---
**Author:** ![Fry](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fry/32/7284_2.png) [@Fry](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Fry)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/75 "2009-01-29T09:28:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blue_eyed_devil/32/7292_2.png) [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/76 "2009-01-29T09:37:29Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > If you don’t like social programs then you should move to a country that doesn’t really have any. I hear Mexico is nice this time of year, or how about Vietnam, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Yemen, Algeria, Darfur, Liberia, Belize, Brazil, Haiti, Colombia, Argentina, Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mongolia(excellent skiing), India, Rwanda, Somalia, Syria, Lebanon… > > …I think theres a pattern here but I’m not quite sure. I guess Mexico sounds good, close to skiing and you can pay my doctors bills whenever I visit. I might have to change my name to Miguel though.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JEG](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jeg/32/7246_2.png) [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/77 "2009-01-29T09:41:50Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > social programs for people that actually need it arent a bad thing, poorly thought out and broken social programs that don’t work/burden the economy are another story (see NY, california, canada, etc) :word:. I’ve said that many times, the problem we have is not that we need MORE social programs, but we need to reform the ones we have to work better. Not throw more money into the ones that don’t work in hopes of fixing the problems that stemmed from this to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/78 "2009-01-29T11:43:49Z")
This bailout is doomed from the start. It will only create higher taxes and increased costs down the road. The tax burden will be passed on to the states and then to the counties and ultimately it will cost everyone far more than it gives them. Free Market society is the only way to make this right. The good get better and the weak die. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/79 "2009-01-29T11:56:00Z")
well… I guess we’ll find out soon enough. As much as I don’t want to see him fail (hey, all politics aside, we’re all in this together), I can’t wait to say “I told ya so” ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/80 "2009-01-29T11:58:40Z")
I also wonder how pissed off people are going to be when they find out the lousy 500 bux isnt going to come as a “free” hand out check…but as part of your federal taxable earnings in a paycheck :lol: But everyone knows what they are always voting for :tup: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059.md?page=5)