# The next trillion dollar bailout **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059 "2009-01-28T12:06:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/101 "2009-01-29T12:52:14Z")
Or what about the 2 BILLION $ headed to the Nations Parks? So please Tom…educate me on first…when where and how $ falls from the sky? Then EXACTLY line for line where it is headed. And then you tell me that this is still a great idea. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/102 "2009-01-29T12:52:55Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > I love how naive people are about “money for infrastructure”. It worked for FDR because back then when you spent a million dollars on building a road 950000 of it went to the road. With today’s union bidding processes for government work a million dollars will get you 10 feet of road because you have to pay 100% of the workers healthcare, retirement, sick days, vacation days, holidays, minimum work hours, apprentice requirements blah blah blah. None of that really helps the economy. ya know, that’s really why I think they should ONLY hire a supervisor. For manual labor, bring in the people who don’t have jobs and let them work for their monthly paycheck until they get back on thier feet. talk about killing a few birds with one stone ---
**Author:** ![AngryHero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/angryhero/32/7495_2.png) [@AngryHero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AngryHero)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/103 "2009-01-29T12:59:07Z")
Not sure if it was said yet. I heard that they require to use American made steel for infrastructures.No foreign. Hes encouraging to buy American ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/104 "2009-01-29T13:00:47Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > Or what about the 2 BILLION $ headed to the Nations Parks? > > So please Tom…educate me on first…when where and how $ falls from the sky? > > Then EXACTLY line for line where it is headed. > > And then you tell me that this is still a great idea. yup… it should come as no surprise to anyone that his administration is on the defence over this one when you see shit like that bundled with an economic package. while campaigning, didnt he talk about going through every single departments budget and cutting away all the fat? yet the first thing he does is add some more on :banghead: edit: I said it before he got elected, it’s going to be business as usual. All that hope and change BS made me feel wonderful though ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/105 "2009-01-29T13:01:38Z")
Total transparancy on this bailout…everyone will know where every cent is being spent… :bsflag: ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/106 "2009-01-29T13:02:58Z")
> [@AngryHero](#): > > Not sure if it was said yet. I heard that they require to use American made steel for infrastructures.No foreign. Hes encouraging to buy American I like it…spend the $ to prop up an already overpriced non competitive american business for a few more years until the $ goes away again. Lets fix the initial problem instead of putting bandaids on everything. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/107 "2009-01-29T13:05:44Z")
> [@Dr.Stevil](#): > > ya know, that’s really why I think they should ONLY hire a supervisor. For manual labor, bring in the people who don’t have jobs and let them work for their monthly paycheck until they get back on thier feet. > > talk about killing a few birds with one stone “Why is this new road so crooked and bumpy”. “It was made by 20 laid off investment bankers”. > [@AngryHero](#): > > Not sure if it was said yet. I heard that they require to use American made steel for infrastructures.No foreign. Hes encouraging to buy American [http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j449b8cmh3l3wTuhE6FLrFG5twKQ](http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j449b8cmh3l3wTuhE6FLrFG5twKQ) So much for the rest of the world loving us again. Should be interesting to see what tune the people who were crying so loud about needing the world to like us and Obama being the cure sing over this. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/108 "2009-01-29T13:07:40Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > “Why is this new road so crooked and bumpy”. > > “It was made by 20 laid off investment bankers”. thats why if they fuck it up, you dock their pay to fix it until it’s done right 🙂 I’d bet money that the next one is done better than a union crew could, quicker and cheaper ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/109 "2009-01-29T13:09:43Z")
So Steve’s economic plan should be dubbed the “Lightning McQueen/Cars” plan. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/110 "2009-01-29T13:11:26Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derLpYLWrMI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derLpYLWrMI) Some how between that video and this one you could find the truth. Honestly, everyone is at fault. And this is not what the argument here is about. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/111 "2009-01-29T13:11:36Z")
it’s called “we’ll help you out, but you have to do something for us” no free rides 🙂 is a lazy person living off of our dime really going to prefer doing manual labor over taking a cushy telemarketing job? Me thinks not edit: what is lightning mcqueen? ---
**Author:** ![TradersBASE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tradersbase/32/5321_2.png) [@TradersBASE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TradersBASE)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/112 "2009-01-29T13:15:56Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > This bailout is doomed from the start. > > It will only create higher taxes and increased costs down the road. > > The tax burden will be passed on to the states and then to the counties and ultimately it will cost everyone far more than it gives them. > > **Free Market society is the only way to make this right. The good get better and the weak die.** AMEN bro!!! ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/113 "2009-01-29T13:19:50Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derLpYLWrMI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derLpYLWrMI) > > Some how between that video and this one you could find the truth. > > Honestly, everyone is at fault. And this is not what the argument here is about. Not sure the point of that video. It doesn’t counter anything that the video I posted stated, which is that yes, Republicans are generally pro-deregulation, but that since 2001 we were saying it went too far with these lenders and it was the democrats who were blocking the regulation. ---
**Author:** ![StrokedZ28](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/strokedz28/32/7592_2.png) [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/114 "2009-01-29T13:35:25Z")
> [@2TurboZ](#): > > Or what about the 2 BILLION $ headed to the Nations Parks? > > So please Tom…educate me on first…when where and how $ falls from the sky? > > Then EXACTLY line for line where it is headed. > > And then you tell me that this is still a great idea. Well here is a chart on the jobs that “should” be created. ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/5/8/58a590aa52d5fd807b842bcebbde52edff3d2a06.png) And here is a pie chart of where the money “should” go. [http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/stimulus-pie-chart/](http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/stimulus-pie-chart/) And as far as where we are going to get the money…we’re going to borrow it you silly goose. :mamoru: Again we’re loosing 20,000 jobs a day, what exactly is the Republican plan for this? PS: Should is “should” because who knows where the money will go in the end. But unlike the cynics, I’m holding out hope that this will work. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/115 "2009-01-29T13:37:44Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Well here is a chart on the jobs that “should” be created. > > [http://freefrombroke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/economic-stimulus-jobs-chart.png](http://freefrombroke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/economic-stimulus-jobs-chart.png) > > And here is a pie chart of where the money “should” go. > > [Stimulus Pie Chart - The New York Times](http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/stimulus-pie-chart/) > > And as far as where we are going to get the money…we’re going to borrow it you silly goose. :mamoru: > > Again we’re loosing 20,000 jobs a day, what exactly is the Republican plan for this? > > PS: Should is “should” because who knows where the money will go in the end. But unlike the cynics, I’m holding out hope that this will work. so it doesnt anger you in the least bit that this money is going other places than it should be? edit: this has nothing to do with the republicans at this point 🙂 your guys are pretty much calling all of the shots right now ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/116 "2009-01-29T13:41:31Z")
> [@StrokedZ28](#): > > Well here is a chart on the jobs that “should” be created. > > [http://freefrombroke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/economic-stimulus-jobs-chart.png](http://freefrombroke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/economic-stimulus-jobs-chart.png) > > And here is a pie chart of where the money “should” go. > > [Stimulus Pie Chart - The New York Times](http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/15/stimulus-pie-chart/) > > And as far as where we are going to get the money…we’re going to borrow it you silly goose. :mamoru: > > Again we’re loosing 20,000 jobs a day, what exactly is the Republican plan for this? > > PS: Should is “should” because who knows where the money will go in the end. But unlike the cynics, I’m holding out hope that this will work. O boy…I feel really warm and tingly on the inside HOPING the $ goes where it “should” But in true liberal style you have nothing but hopes and shoulds guiding you in your decision making. But we are all in this together…whooppiiieeeeee I also love the 31.3 Billion dollars going to ??? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/117 "2009-01-29T13:44:39Z")
im out. this shit is like a conservative gangbang. If it was up to you guys we’d vote Herbert Hoover to fix the economy. ---
**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/118 "2009-01-29T13:45:37Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > im out. this shit is like a conservative gangbang. If it was up to you guys we’d vote Herbert Hoover to fix the economy. I would vote for common sense and logic to fix the economy. But thats just me. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Stevil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/119 "2009-01-29T13:50:22Z")
> [@Joe](#): > > im out. this shit is like a conservative gangbang. If it was up to you guys we’d vote Herbert Hoover to fix the economy. No, we’d vote in Ronald Regan you goose (had to do it) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059/120 "2009-01-29T13:54:25Z")
[http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/29/stimulus.next/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/29/stimulus.next/index.html) A few more details about where the Republicans would like to see the stimulus head. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-next-trillion-dollar-bailout/62059.md?page=7)