# The OFFICIAL Gun Thread.
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496
**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [March 1, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496 "2009-03-01T21:19:43Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Jammer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jammer)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2361 "2012-12-27T17:04:01Z")
Text me Coss, ifanything pops up.
BTW, to those interested…heres a snapshot at Feinsteins outline…
Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons
In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
Summary of 2013 legislation
Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:
```
Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms;
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
```
\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2362 "2012-12-27T17:10:23Z")
Yea, she wants to turn current ARs into NFA items (like short barreled rifles, suppressors, and transferrable fully-auto guns), almost all of which are illegal in NYS (with the exception of “Any Other Weapon (AOW)”.
Here’s the good part:
Some stuff on that is so far out in left field, it’ll likely be a bogus campaign.
I’d be more worried about what Cuomo has planned for us than anything the Fed gov’t does. We’re already under an AWB very similar to the 94 ban. I hope, at the very worse, the rest of the country has the same laws as us.
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2363 "2012-12-27T17:13:57Z")
I said that the other day and you told me not to worry about it :lol
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2364 "2012-12-27T17:16:40Z")
> [@new to this forum](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-to-this-forum/51347/5):
>
> I said that the other day and you told me not to worry about it :lol
Lol, I said “I’d be more worried”, not “I am worried”. I’m hoping that once the near year rolls around and bigger priorities come up, any gun legislation will be put on the backburner.
The feds have to worry about that fiscal cliff thingy majigg.
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### Author:  [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2365 "2012-12-27T17:23:37Z")
> [@Willyville crew, Lunch?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/willyville-crew-lunch/43794/212):
>
> Text me Coss, ifanything pops up.
>
> BTW, to those interested…heres a snapshot at Feinsteins outline…
>
> Stopping the spread of deadly assault weapons
>
> In January, Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill to stop the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition feeding devices.
>
> Summary of 2013 legislation
>
> Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:
>
> Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
> 120 specifically-named firearms;
> Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
> Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
> Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
> Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
> Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
> Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
> Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
> Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
>
> Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
> Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
> Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
>
> \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
> Background check of owner and any transferee;
> Type and serial number of the firearm;
> Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
> Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
> Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*
What kind of optic are you looking for?
Also they decided not to hold a special session to legislate new gun laws and the stuff is slowly fading out of the media. (with exception of the dumb cunt in saratoga trying to stop the gun show) Honestly I think everything that we have seen has been a knee jerk reaction and in another week there will be some other event to take the front page and hopefully nothing will happen.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2366 "2012-12-27T17:56:54Z")
My optimistic view:
Nothing worse will happen (in NY at least) and we will have a lot of guns for sale locally for cheap as the market will be saturated. Similar to the generator sales past the hurricane scare.
Worst realistic scenario, some ban/limitation/new procedure is introduced where it’s harder to own but it’s extremely unlikely for grandfathered weapons to be attacked or went after. Which ironically makes the law useless.
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### Author:  [@toomanycamaros](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/toomanycamaros)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2367 "2012-12-27T18:04:00Z")
> [@SOLD: 2000 BMW 328i](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-2000-bmw-328i/51333/11):
>
> My optimistic view:
>
> Nothing worse will happen (in NY at least) and we will have a lot of guns for sale locally for cheap as the market will be saturated. Similar to the generator sales past the hurricane scare.
>
> Worst realistic scenario, some ban/limitation/new procedure is introduced where it’s harder to own but it’s extremely unlikely for grandfathered weapons to be attacked or went after. Which ironically makes the law useless.
It all comes down to $$$. It’s perfectly legal to resell a long gun a million times with no registration, so they are basically impossible to track. Unless there was going to be a lot of money put into some effort to find and track what I would guess is over 10 million weapons it’s a law that is basically impossible to enforce. Also the lower reciever is the firearms so you could strip every part off of any lower registered to you and just turn in the lower and they can’t do shit. Then all you need is a different lower and to reassemble the rifle.
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### Author:  [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2368 "2012-12-27T18:19:13Z")
Also since guns are easily customized, with many parts being able to be changed it’s hard to form an umbrella law that actually stops anything. Which is why “Assault weapon” coinage came about and is worded so vague.
They had to pass something but it’s impossible for law makers to put into words the fact that
This
and this
Are essentially the same gun making the same damage (.22) but one is much more “menacing” than the other. (I have no idea what the second monstrosity is but I googled 1022 remington for it :lol )
AR looks scary (being born for modern combat and all), hunting rifles typically don’t, with the wood furniture and lack of a magazine. In this country the masses are easily swayed either way on issues and they both end up going nowhere or having a productive result. Current fiscal cliff is a perfect example of that.
NYfirearms had a good article recently where it essentially said that America is full of assholes, and there is nothing that can be done about it. People don’t consider other people, the fact that they are human beings or how they might effect them. Some of these shootings are an extreme case of that.
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2369 "2012-12-27T20:47:13Z")
> [@SOLD: 2000 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue 6-Speed](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold-2000-audi-s4-nogaro-blue-6-speed/50940/35):
>
> i saw a prototype and its def tits wayne! how my turbo coming adam\>?
I made a temp cover from 1/4" plate for you for the time being. I still have to tool up the actual flange I want to make you on the CNC, but ran into some more fucking issues with test runs of these handguards and just haven’t had the time to get to that yet. At least for now this one will suffice and then it can just be swapped out as soon as I get the nice one cut for you.
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### Author:  [@Omega](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Omega)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2370 "2012-12-27T21:55:40Z")
They are throwing their agenda at the wall liberally and trying to see what sticks. If they hold dead set on making changes, then the people will be happy to compromise.
Also, FB is banning “pro gun accounts / groups.” wtf…
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### Author:  [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2371 "2012-12-27T22:00:16Z")
> [@its now racist to use the term "black hole"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-now-racist-to-use-the-term-black-hole/51353/4):
>
> 
i _believe_ that’s an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), Paratrooper style. it is most certainly NOT a .22LR,
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2372 "2012-12-27T22:07:19Z")
> [@In our new house (finally)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-our-new-house-finally/46093/67):
>
> i _believe_ that’s an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), Paratrooper style. it is most certainly NOT a .22LR,
It’s actually a Ruger 10/22 with a kit that makes it look like a M249. It most certainly is a .22LR :tongue
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### Author:  [@Skidplate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skidplate)
#### Post date: [December 27, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2373 "2012-12-27T22:28:40Z")
> [@Post your rig specs](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-your-rig-specs/34597/49):
>
> It’s actually a Ruger 10/22 with a kit that makes it look like a M249. It most certainly is a .22LR :tongue
what in the unholy fuck. i looked it up. i dont even.
aaaaand its $1100
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2374 "2012-12-28T08:46:07Z")
:skid
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### Author:  [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2375 "2012-12-28T08:47:17Z")
:facepalm Skid, go on, get on outta here
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2376 "2012-12-28T09:54:56Z")
Went to Zacks and B&J today. Both were pretty much cleaned out of AR’s.
Zach’s had two Windham Weaponry’s that they wanted $2100 a piece for (fuck that nonsense). I didn’t bother asking what the S&W M&P’s were going for.
B&J had a preban Knights Armament Stoner SR-25 that they wanted $3999 for. It made my dick move when I saw it.
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2377 "2012-12-28T10:50:12Z")
Saw target sports in rotterdam post on there FB today that they were selling windham weaponry ar’s for $1300, said they had 3 on the way.
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### Author:  [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2378 "2012-12-28T10:50:45Z")
> **[Target Sports](https://www.facebook.com/pages/Target-Sports/129286867087239?ref=ts&fref=ts)**
>
> Target Sports, Glenville, NY. 1,996 likes · 335 talking about this · 110 were here. Local, personal service- with a lot of experience in the shooting sports and hunting. Owned by Steve Borst.
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### Author:  [@cazwrx187](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cazwrx187)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2379 "2012-12-28T11:10:30Z")
Much better but still too much lol
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### Author:  [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-official-gun-thread/242496/2380 "2012-12-28T13:19:39Z")
> [@In our new house (finally)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/in-our-new-house-finally/46093/67):
>
> i _believe_ that’s an M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW), Paratrooper style. it is most certainly NOT a .22LR,
Don’t be talking shit/nonsense in the gun thread. The one thread that I’LL tear you a new ass for doing so…
get facts, read facts again, post. In that order. Kthnxbye
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